OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now

[sm0ky2]

This device of Quinns......

i did some preliminary tests on the pressure system, and it appears you can force this type of heat pump to circulate through the "loop".

The question i have (and i have no way of even testing this with any degree of accuracy) is wether or not the heating of the fluid is increased beyond thermodynamical potential.

NOW::  every element has a known thermal cooeficient, based on mass, and we know exactly how long it will take to heat up said mass with a given ammount of thermal energy.

k.        lets just say that in one "cycle" of the archer's loop - 1 Liter of fluid ran though it.
and was heated by the element.

now,. 1/5th of a liter is cycled back through, so you're essentially putting 20% of the initial heat energy back into the system, so help in heating the next 4/5th's liter that is passing through the element.

you are now heating 80% of the original volume, so you will notice a 20% decrease in the time taken to heat or a 20% increase in the final difference in temperature (when time is constant).

i do not see this issue addressed anywhere in their discussion of the devices, nor do i see how this in any way violates (or even bends) the laws of thermodynamics.
i like this archer's loop though, this could come in handy for several things.

[todd.hathaway]

Cool beans to see prize money for open source overunity techs.
www.aero2012.com also has funding for techs that are overunity, though the bar is pretty high for that award.
www.green-salon.com lists a few techs that may make it across the finish line first.
I gave Bob Boyce a Prius this month for his open source tech - wish him luck...that's the only funding I had left for these types of projects.
If I had more I'd throw it into the kitty...

Todd & Nora
301-320-3716

[The Eskimo Quinn]

Good to see you worked on the accelerator theory as an exercise, although as noted even in the patent application, it is a built and fully tested device. In your last para, where you noted the increase of 20 percent, that "is" the breach, the outcome for total fluid over watts of the element at set time and voltage exceed the scientific tables for the outcome by 20 percent, these tables which have existed for some 40 years as they are now were based on the maximum achievable under the laws of energy and heat or newton's first. Which of course made sense, based on the premise the world thought Newton was God and could not be wrong, I on the other hand do not claim to have or know the limit of such tables or indeed if there even is one when it comes to heat and energy. I only know that according to the heatload calculation tables derived from newtons first that they are no longer valid, and as such if they were accurately derived from Newton and known physics (as one would imagine the scientific community would have) the Newton and the standing laws have been beaten and publicly so.

In other news I'm back from my holidays, and after completing 2 other patents over the next few weeks, i will start the rebuild of the larger version of my other favorite toy, and it may end up being earlier than June 20 this year based on the current behaviour of the oil companies and lack of government intervention. (if they can screw our farmers by fixing the maximum price for milk they could have screwed these scumbags accordingly).

Hope you all had a good break.

[The Eskimo Quinn]

For those of you who wish to build a test unit of the accelerator for around 50 bux, i will give you instructions now. Please look at the patent app so you understand the basics.

For those who don't fully understand thermodynamics, you do not need to build the most perfect machine to test the laws, as they are set. The rule being (in simple) you can't get more heat out without more energy in, so no matter what your device and how poorly insulated a device is, whatever the maximum temperature the device achieves in output is the maximum for that device. According to thermodynamic laws you cannot get more heat out without more energy in (we will agree for the sake of argument that the ambient input temperature stays the same) The laws say that no mechanical device can make more heat come out of the same device (mechanical being a non powered array or configuration of the same device excluding increasing insulative properties)

Not noted in the Accelerator Patent for deliberate reasons to counter every stupid argument that could ever come up regarding some minuscule reason about planetary alignment or any other horse shit someone may wish to use to say there are reasons why the tables are not correct in this instance. In simple if the heat from the accelerator is the same with or without the loop and forced low pressure effect, then Newton is still beaten!!! Why?? because the surface area and added friction and travel loss of heat through the loop says it should be colder with the accelerator, and that is the very foundation of newtons first regarding energy and heat, that surface area forms part of the heat loss equations and therefor must absolutely be colder if 15 percent is added to the surface area by the addition of the loop, in addition to that, the loop is "not heated" so the loss is even greater than a 15 percent increase in the surface area as those calculations are based on heated surface!!! Newton is most definitely toast.

OK 50 bux

20 dollars, one travel hair dryer, you know the one that looks like a cylinder and the handle collapses, 2 dollar shops and K mart usually have them.

This is of course the fan with element in front, just as in the accelerator.

15 dollars, one multi meter from JayCar or the like that has a thermocouple for reading temperatures quickly and accurately. (bloody cheap for a digital thermocouple aren't they?)

7.50 for an 800mm length of plumbing pipe just large enough to fit the cylinder of the hair dryer in.

7.50 for a 300mm length of pipe 20mm and 2 elbows (electrical conduit) for the loop

5 dollars for fabric tape (used on the cold side)

cut a slot 2.5 time the length of the dryer the width of the drop down handle to slide it in (do not remove the handle) tape evenly over the slot (even tape the cutout back in if you can)

Now drill 2 holes the same size as the elbows so the internal walls (diameter) of the elbows are the same as the holes. The first hole 25 mm away from the intake side of the dryer, and the other one hair dryer length from the outlet side of the dryer, and affix the loop.

Cut a slot in the loop somewhere to insert a thin piece of plastic like from and ice cream container. place the piece in to stop any flow through the loop.

Now turn on the dryer and place the thermo couple probe down inside a few inches from the end of the main outlet and run for  until as hot as it will get, tape the probe in one place so the reading are equally fair. let the unit get cold if you like (max heat is max heat right?)

now remove the piece of plastic and tape the slot and try again and watch the temp rise and rise past the maximum ability of the heater as was previously available.

25 percent of all airconditioning and heating costs throughout the world? I'd call that better than a neat trick.

Have fun

[sm0ky2]

you're not seeing the conceptual problem here, that i tried to point out above.....

VOLUME!!  when you open the bypass valve, you lose a portion of your volume, which is recycled back through the loop.

the heat energy in that portion of the volume, is added back to the system, there is no increase. it is exactly the same as it was before you opened the loop, (minus a small ammount that is actually lost in the loop).

measure this sytem again, keeping a close watch on Volume, and adjust the heat energy value to include the % volume heated by the previous pass through the loop.

it may help to use a colored dye insert into your working fluid, at the back end of the return loop., so yu can get the time variance of one "pass" through the system, when calculating your volume.

Total Heat is not all of the equation here, you must take the change in volume into account. While you can increase the total heat of the system, you at the same time are decreasing the volume of the system, and more particularly, the % of the volume of the fluid that is being heated from ambient temperature. You increase the ammount of fluid that is already at "max temp", and being heated further as it passes through the loop a second time.