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Overunity Machines Forum



Simple SMOT style Motor or "How to remove a sticking point"

Started by Beamsplitter, April 13, 2007, 11:48:33 AM

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Gregory

Quotewhen I tried to take away the strength of the sticky spot, something bad also happened with the force in the rest of the track. A very strong sticky spot gives a much faster propulsion during the ramp, compared with a weak steaky spot.

This is because shields generally attract magnetism, thus take away and hold an amount of flux from the magnets. Therefore the magnets become weaker. Many tried to use shielding to weaken the sticky spot, and it was really happend!! But the magnets had also become weaker.

The problem is they tried the use the same weakened magnet / magnetic system to overcome its own weakened sticky point(s).

(-5) + 5 = 0  ; (-2) + 2 = 0

(-5) + 5 = (-2) + 2

0 = 0

So shielding is possible, but one will lose the same what one can gain by the shielding. Mathematically do nothing... the end sum will be zero in all cases.

The stronger the sticky spot, the stronger the magnets, the stronger the interaction, and vice versa.

In sum, without some kind of "magic shielding" ...

gyulasun

Quote from: Gregory on April 19, 2007, 07:22:14 AM

In sum, without some kind of "magic shielding" ...

Hi Folks,

There seems to be a magnetic shield that is not attracted by magnets but is still claimed to act as a shield, see this Abstract of patent application US20060083931:

"The present invention concerns a shielding material for a magnetic shield containing coal slag; silver powder; a mixture of calcium powder, magnesium powder, and zinc powder; and silica powder. The shielding material is in powder form. In another embodiment, the present invention contemplates adding nano-silver to the shielding material. The present invention is based on the concept that the magnetic field is actually "deflected" away from the area shielded. This is possible in view of the shielding materials used to produce the magnetic shield."

This was also a topic here at overunity.com last December if you happen to have not seen it, it is here:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1771.msg20161.html#msg20161

And here is a link to the patent application:

http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat20060083931.pdf

I have not tried this yet but the examples presented are attractive... and the ingredient/constituting materials seem to be obtainable with little effort.

Another "magic" shield material seems to be pyrolityc graphite, also mentioned on this Forum already.  Here is an outside link to it:
http://sci-toys.com/scitoys/scitoys/magnets/pyrolytic_graphite.html

Regards
Gyula

Gregory

Hi Gyula,

Thanks for showing the patent application, I forgot that. Interesting!

Looks like a "magical recipe". Such an invention is close to PM in itself, if the effect is strong enough, and the invention really works as they claim.

Anybody tried it already for shielding magnetic fields?

Regards,
Gergely

Beamsplitter

Hi All,

       Sorry I've been gone for so long, started a new career and it's just now settling down a little bit. At least now, I will have a significant amount of $ to sink into our common goal. It looks like I've missed some significant posts!!!!!!! I am astounded but not surprised, if that makes sense.

       I assume you guys must not be total quantum physics nuts like I am by the way you use the word "magic." M-Theory postulates one substitution for the M as the word, "magic." Hey, Einstein didn't want to believe that inside your everyday household transistors electrons were 'magically' teleporting out of their silicon prisons, at a predictable rate to boot (Heiserman Uncertainty Principle)! Yet, those little electrons magically, yet literally teleport out of their manmade prisons countless times  in all of our computers every day. So, if you don't believe in literal teleportation, thus "magic" then stop posting on this website, and using computers altogether because magic is what makes transistors and silicon chips possible. It's a quantum world now... wickie-woo!!!!

       But, on a more practical note, I thank you guys for continuing to post on my topic in my absence, even if you, like Einstein before you, don't believe transistors or computers work. And many, if not infinite thanks to you, Gyula!!! This is the break we've all been waiting for and whoever posts it on the web for the rest of us to read may believe they are just a normal person, but, to me, people like you embody what Tolkien truly wanted Bilbo and Frodo to represent. Thomas Paine would be proud. I will in the near future procure some of this magic substance to add to my collection and put to work with the rest of my working magic toys! THIS substance is what I've dreamed of for years... thank you so much.

       You see, until now, I did not have the financial means to procure these magic shielding substances and had almost given up on their timely discovery. Now, in true Jungian Syncronistical fashion, I get a great job and you make the aforementioned post! It's a magic world and I have enough hope to go around! The race is on!

       I'll be in touch.

magnusx

Hey wow, you guys just opened my eyes to an amazing thing!

I checked out "Pyrolytic graphite" - if it works as advertised it could shield from magnetic fields - something I didn't know was possible!

As per posts elsewhere, if this could be used in (for example) two arms on a spinning shaft, we might be able to "gate" a magnetic field sufficiently to create a Pm self-runner. The main problem i can see with the idea is that you would need to prove that the energy used to move your blocking device was less than that used for a piece of plain iron used in the same place. If so, we have our magic "gate". You might also want to use bits of this stuff to "separate" or even concentrate a magnetic field where desired . . . . . .  some BIG possibilities here!  ;)