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Simple to make Hilden-Brand style motor

Started by Nali2001, April 13, 2007, 03:40:34 PM

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wizkycho

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November 03, 2008, 04:01:17 AM
Quote from: LarryC on October 10, 2008, 04:33:59 PM
@All,

Another simple to make Hilden-Brand style motor is by using a Shaded Pole Ac motor. It has the magnets before the rotor and can be connected into a multi valve unit. Downside, it is hard to find a large motor to use Jack size OU magnets.

The thin top piece of the motor is cut. The rotor is cut to a shorter arc instead of a circle. Magnets are placed on each side of the stator, a bar is added around to complete the outside flux path of the magnets. The inside flux path is thru the center of the electromagnet.

When the motor has the magnets it picks up the weight attached by a string to the side of the fan. When the motor doesn't have the magnets it cannot pick up the weight.

Regards, Larry
   

any current, voltage measurements ?

Wiz

LarryC

#161
November 03, 2008, 09:55:30 AM
Quote from: wizkycho on November 03, 2008, 04:01:17 AM
any current, voltage measurements ?

Wiz

Hi Wiz,

I was using a small 9V battery. The coil is 20.6 ohms, so under ideal conditions it would be 437 MA.

It would be much better to use a precise DC source. If you check patent 6369479, tables 1 thru 11 shows the force at varying gaps by volts and amps with the magnets attached. Tables 12 thru 22 shows the force at varying gaps by volts and amps without the magnets attached. But if that is too much detail, the graph in figure 26 is excellent.

Regards, Larry

Nali2001

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November 03, 2008, 12:07:41 PM
The only 'problem' I have with the graphs in their patent and website is that they were taken from a static valve setup to measure pure attractive power and were not taking from a running motor. And in such a dynamic mode things change rapidly. Would be very interested in data taken from a motor at speed.

LarryC

#163
November 03, 2008, 12:56:15 PM
Quote from: Nali2001 on November 03, 2008, 12:07:41 PM
The only 'problem' I have with the graphs in their patent and website is that they were taken from a static valve setup to measure pure attractive power and were not taking from a running motor. And in such a dynamic mode things change rapidly. Would be very interested in data taken from a motor at speed.

Did you see this page on their website?

http://www.genesis-corp.co.jp/type2.html

Regards, Larry
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