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Simple to make Hilden-Brand style motor

Started by Nali2001, April 13, 2007, 03:40:34 PM

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i_ron

Quote from: nwman on October 13, 2008, 03:16:35 PM
i_ron,

What was the mesurments of the power input between the two tests?

Tim

Never taken!

But here is the pulse length... this was done some time ago so going on memory, a bit risky...
But for an input approximation it would be 12 volts at 5.4 ohms and 140 ms
No measurement for the first test of course as it never tripped the switches.

Ron
I have the DSO-101  <http://www.syscompdesign.com/index.html>

i_ron

Quote from: nwman on October 13, 2008, 12:51:09 AM
Please let me know if I should be talking about this in another topic than this but I had a late night thought. If the Flynn motor idea actually works [?] then why couldn't you just take out the rotor and substitute in a solid core /  collection coil? If I am correct I thought the Flynn motor claims to run off AC? Its just a brain fart but I thought I would throw it out there.

Tim

No problem as I see it... flux switchers are fair game.

Now the Flynn motor works, and works well. There is no mention of over unity as we are not
allowed to have OU, simple as that. Then to, it is out of his hands with new owners now,
sorry I have misplaced the link... but Boeing has an interest...

"PPMT is the biggest leap in motor and generator design logic in more than a hundred years."

Boeing Phantom Works

The problem with the Flynn motor/generator for us is the very tricky nature of the shapes
for the laminations... almost an impossibility to duplicate at home and if you take the rotor
out then a solid core would not work, as it is part of the switching design.

My take, anyway...

Ron

"QM Power offers a variety of standard and custom PPMT products to meet your industrial, aerospace, automotive, marine, and energy production needs. ..."

nwman

i_ron,

The quote "PPMT is the biggest leap in motor and generator design logic in more than a hundred years." only come from the Flynn website from what I have seen. I have googled flynn up one side and down another but have only found comments like these on their site or other sites quoting their site. If I see something on Boeing's site or a third party source then I might believe.

I haven't been able to wrap my head around how the flux lines would flow but this is what I was thinking about with a solid state flynn configuration.

i_ron

Quote from: nwman on October 13, 2008, 08:55:36 PM
i_ron,

The quote "PPMT is the biggest leap in motor and generator design logic in more than a hundred years." only come from the Flynn website from what I have seen. I have googled flynn up one side and down another but have only found comments like these on their site or other sites quoting their site. If I see something on Boeing's site or a third party source then I might believe.

snip

“QM Power is working with the National Science Foundation, Department of Energy, the Department of Defense, NASA, Boeing and other military contractors to achieve a new level of high performance electric motors, generators and actuators.

PPMT can significantly reduce carbon dioxide emissions: Electricity Generation â€" Less Coal, Greater Efficiency Transportation â€" Minimize or Eliminate Fossil Fuels”

Read between the lines… PPMT has fallen into the black hole of DARPA…
you will not find anything of substance on the web anymore!...and the only motor/generator
you will buy at the hardware store will be under unity...R



“QM Power, Inc. (“Quantum Magnetic Power”) was founded in November of 2006 to capitalize on proprietary and patented advances in a low cost, high performance electric motor, generator and actuator technology called Parallel Path Magnetic Technology (PPMTâ,,¢). PPMT is a breakthrough technology that uses permanent magnets in a novel yet simple and efficient magnetic circuit design that can substantially reduce cost and improve performance for almost any electro-mechanical application. PPMT products operate far more efficiently over a wider power range than conventional/existing AC or DC electric motors, generators and actuators. They have higher power density and reliability, run cooler and are much lighter, smaller and lower cost. QM Power has developed over 50 prototypes and is beginning to approach strategic industry leaders to demonstrate the improved efficiency and performance for power tools, electric or hybrid electric vehicles, power generation, linear actuators/pumps/clamps, industrial motors, military applications and a variety of other stand-alone applications”.

http://nrc.org/Nanotech2008/showabstract.html?absno=22061

wind power…

-   QM Power Inc. is altering the electromagnetic elements of the motors and generators inside the turbines to reduce sizes and maximize efficiencies.
-   It claims to have tripled output.

http://newenergynews.blogspot.com/2007/11/bold-new-wind-ideas.html

nwman

If you would like we can continue this debate via PM. However it seems those quotes are baseless. They are written by people that claim to work for the company [QM, Flynn]. If the tech' is so hush hush then why is flynn's site still up and running? Why are they even commenting on it at a trade show!? That would be one of the first to come down. There are companies that have billions of dollars that if this tech' has some remote possibility of working then they could probably revers engineer the tech' and make there own to capitalize off of. Even with patents they could get around it. It would be worth trillions.

Tim