Simple to make Hilden-Brand style motor

[wizkycho]

@wizkycho
I getting tired of you bad behavior, wizkycho.
Why do you get mad when your told that something already have been tested and found not working?
Can't you take a lesson in physics or do you have to be both blind and stupid to hang around here?
I'm neither blind, stupid or uneducated but I still hope there will be free energy invented soon.

I just told you about some true facts but then you won't accept it and start yelling.
Why don't you build two valves just like I described and see the outcome for yourself.

   You again Ergo haven't made Your Homework - You haven't tested anything -  What ? I should Just believe You cause Your magesty says so. You are just wasting hard drive space, time and that is probably what are You paid for. You don't even bother to read replays correctly because this is not why You are here for. You are here to make a mess. Make an experiment and prove Yourself worthy of sending replays here. You can't Your boss who pays your devolish destructive ways will not allow you.

Simple very well done and repeated experiments prove You are wrong. You didn't make any. Most of all why I madly call Flames from Hell  upon man like Yourself, You are destructive for no reason - You are out of control and out of your mind. Mad from vanity to be right. You act like mad godlike creature who doesn't has to do any experiment cause You allready know the outcome for everything.
You put so much effort in negating truth - and not givig any clues how did you get so damn smart and we all are so stupid.
You are making proof of Einsteins concept that Human stupidity is infinite - but so is flux from permanent magnet.
And gess what ? Common permanent magnet made mashed potatoes of your "godlike" destructively stupid confused brain.

Talking about Happy End !!!!!

Sorry Magnetic Transistor has been invented and is everywhere around You and You can't do squat 'bout it - and You are not the one who invented it buhuhuhuuuuu.

How do You like it now ?

Wiz

[i_ron]

Wow easy there Wiz, no need to go against one other here.
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Steven,

I notice a very striking similarity between ergo's negative style of writing and that of polar breeze
on Thanes list...

Wiz, on the other hand, is a dedicated researcher and experiment, knowledgeable and willing to share, the kind a careful moderator should protect and encourage....

Ron

[Ergo]

@ i_ron and wizkycho.

I guess we had better not tell QM Power and Genesis that their motors don't work!

You get me wrong. Their motors seem to work fine, according to published infomation.
There's probably som other advantages we don't know of yet, but it's not overunity.

Think of it this way.
Yes, the coil is larger, the resistance is higher but it's not completely doubled, but this is of no interest in the valve.
It is all about creating 1.5 tesla of flux at the least amount of electrical input.
Inserting a magnet will provide for one stream of 1.5T and the coil the other stream of 1.5T.
It takes approx 8W (static mode) to redirect the flux passing through coil core and force both parallel streams of flux through the "rotor".
The two streams of flux will act just as one big stream of 1.5T flux on twice the area translated into quadrupled force.

But if you hade used a twice the coil core area you wouldn't have to spend energy on reversing the B/H curve.
Then you will get the same 1.5T flux levels at the same 8W input even though the coil resistance is higher.
If you don't understand this you should really take lesson in basic softmagnetic physics.

In dynamic pulsed mode the resistance is completely negligible. In this case it's only the inductance that count's.
Winding the coil at to many turns will increase the inductance to much and prevent fast response times.
To fight the inductance one must raise the voltage a lot. A static valve at 12V will need approx 100-200V at several hundreds Hz.
But you still have to reach the same current level as the static valve. The 8W static input willl turn into hundreds of watt in dynamic mode.
This is why Jack Hilden-Brand can't run his motors on the same wattage as in static mode.

Last but not least.
Ordinary non-oriented silicon steel take about 4-8W to reach 1.5T depending on geometrical design and winding technique.
This material have a permeability of approx 800-1600 and it show how easily the stuff is magnetized by the applied magnetizing force.
If you instead had used a high quality core from Metglas Magnetic Alloy 2605SA1 you could slash input power by at least 300 times or more.
http://www.metglas.com/products/page5_1_2_4.htm.
As you can see this material have 600000 in permeability when using the Longitudinal Field Anneal option.
In order to reach 1.5T in a closed loop (small airgaps) you just need 20-30mW instead of the 8W used in the steel valve.

Now you tell me how the use of the 8W valve will translate into overunity in a motor when you can just use Alloy 2605SA1 and no magnet
to reach the same force of 1.5 teslas at 30mW input?

This time I don't want to hear about your own techno invented bullshit. Speak to me as a calm professional using the proper technical terms.

[i_ron]

@ i_ron and wizkycho.
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To fight the inductance one must raise the voltage a lot. A static valve at 12V will need approx 100-200V at several hundreds Hz.
But you still have to reach the same current level as the static valve. The 8W static input willl turn into hundreds of watt in dynamic mode.
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If you instead had used a high quality core from Metglas Magnetic Alloy 2605SA1 you could slash input power by at least 300 times or more.
http://www.metglas.com/products/page5_1_2_4.htm.

It is all by the book, isn't it?

You have not show your experiments nor provided any numbers.

Metglas is not available to us... why bring it up? If metglas is so great why is not every motor and transformer using it?

Look again at my video of the dynamic test... it puts the lie to your above, 100's of watts statement.
I show a dynamic test, under load, of the valve operating briskly, under the same 12 volt input as in
the the static test.

What you are overlooking also is that the primary coil can be a generating coil... as Flynn says,
fully 25% of the switching input can be recovered. As Jack says... it is a generator.

Ron

[Ergo]

Look again at my video of the dynamic test... it puts the lie to your above, 100's of watts statement.
I show a dynamic test, under load, of the valve operating briskly, under the same 12 volt input as in
the the static test.

If you refer to the video http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=5prfWVc--dc then this is not a dynamic test.
It's just a static test with magnets added. The flux have all the time it needs to build up when you press the button.
By dynamic I mean a motor at full speed (lot's of RPM) or a transformer setup at more than 25Hz.

I hold on to my claim that a core area of twice the size will do the same jobb as the magnet valve.
Just try it and see for your self. It should not be such a big deal for you and your mechanical skills.
If you don't try it you will never find out whether I'm right or wrong in this matter. The true scientist
always see things through to find the truth behind his discoveries.

I'm not here to stop you from inventing or finding OU. I want OU just as much as the rest of you guys here.
It's just that I can't be quiet when I see you going into a dead end. Don't take it wrong. I really want you
to build the double core sized valve and test it. It would be of great interest for the other readers as well.
Maybe you build the valve differently or make some changes and find OU. Then you have my deepest appologies
and also my congratulations on a great discovery. But until you have tested my claim you don't know you self whether
the valve is producing any overunity. If it was truly overunity then it would also work in transformer mode.
But I encourage you to build the valve using a single coil with dual core area. It will tell the truth and the truth is good.

Metglas is not available to us... why bring it up? If metglas is so great why is not every motor and transformer using it?

Simply because not all devices need the highest performing material available at very high pricing.
The average standard equipment is doing just fine with the regular stuff.