Source of energy, Testatika

[gauschor]

@Replication of Jorge Resine:

Here is my observation and assumptions:

Regarding that replication I believe that I read in an article years ago that the discs of this replication were rotating very fast and the motor was powered by conventional electricity from the socket.
This leads me to the conclusion that he just drove the discs fast enough to produce enough static electricity. From my own experience on how long it takes to charge up a small cap (needs about 3 revolutions) I'd say this device uses about 50-150 revolutions / second.

Another hint: you can see he is not using conventional light bulbs (the one with the wire in it) but energy saving bulbs. These energy saving lamps are easier to lit than conventional bulbs. This has already been proven using different Joule Thief Circuits.

So the output of 300 Watts might just be the light intensity of 3x100 Watt conventional bulbs, but not real Watts.

Maybe he got enough power to light the energy saving bulbs, but never enough to feed it back to the motor. This principle must also differ completely from the principle of the Testatika, because the discs of the latter one were rotating by only 1 revolution / per second and Baumann actually lit "real" bulbs.

In my opinion this replication never was a replication.

[mikewatson]

Of course we have to take a lot at face value, I do not know if Baumann had a wire going into the mains socket hidden round the back either. It is only because Stefan Marinov told me personally that he had held the small machine in his hands and started it himself that I believe the Methernita people had discovered something important. At one time Marinov was a physics professor so was well familiar with conventional electromagnetism.
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[TinselKoala]

It is very difficult for me to believe that the Testatica depends on any major way on static electricity. There are a number of things that make static a problematic explanation. Static electricity involves the accumulation of high voltages on well-insulated metal surfaces or patch charges on insulating non-conducting surfaces like glass or plastic.

In no particular order:

1) you can hold one in your hand while it works
2) there are supposed to be single-disk versions (although there are single disk static machines too)
3) there are a lot of points and edges and generally tight radius metal parts like thin wires that would prevent high voltages from developing
4) the disks spin slowly
5) allegedly the number of sectors is related to the output frequency
6) Baumann called one disk "earth" and the other disk "cloud" as if to mean they have different or opposite polarities. But this is not how Wimshurst or Bonetti machines work, rather it is the "left" and "right" halves of the machine, involving both disks, that have the different polarities.
7) the power output seems too great
there are a lot of surfaces that can accumulate dust and moisture from the air, and these kill static machines, especially in humid weather
9) I don't recall any reports of smells of ozone, corona glow, occasional sparking, or being shocked while holding the small one by hand while running.

I too am personally acquainted with someone who went to Methernitha and handled the small unit while it was running. He has no explanation, although I don't know his views specifically concerning the possibility of a static electricity explanation.

[gauschor]

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Just plain stupid arguing. If someone has something which works and wants everyone to have it - and this is the only way to work for free energy devices - then there are enough ways nowadays to do it and yet keep staying anonymous. If you don't realize that, then you must really lack basic knowledge on how to use "information technology". But you can of course continue to believe in your conspiracy and suppression theories, in people like Bearden, Keshe, Mylow, etc.

[andrea76]

It is you that is a chatter box. Perhaps if you could read and write above a third grade level it would all make more sense and you could comprehend what others have shared.

If you do one of these three things, the national security agency will send a letter of mark to the president who will sign it, hand that off to the cowboys at CIA and they will murder you. They classify it as a national security economic threat. While it would not hurt my economics or yours perhaps you have not noticed your government does not represent you.

The three things are:

1. Do a credible public demonstration beyond any reasonable doubt.
2. Draw a detailed schematic that can be replicated.
3. Attempt to manufacture and sell a device.

Now I am real sorry you are not intelligent enough to "put it together" but you might just need to do what a bunch of us have done, and that is spend 30 years or so working on it.

The displacement current acts as an accelerator. All free energy devices convert mass into atomic energy and they all use acceleration to do that.

Displacement current alone will not do the trick but then I never claimed that. Again, I would suggest you spend more time carefully reading and less time spouting off about something you obviously know nothing about. That's good advice from an old man that spent decades figuring these things out.

I'm just sure there are good reasons that free energy devices are not allowed and the science not taught in school. Maybe someday when the Earth is not polluted with idiots and thugs, they will be available. Until then, if you can't afford the gas, get on the short bus.

particle accelarator..mm..SM wrote about CRT television and an accident occurred in 1965.a CRT  can accelerate particle (ions) trough the "correct" 2 pulsed frequencies and convert the mass into electrical energy?? If the receptor is not polarized it does not work.the linden experiment show the magnet and coil capturing the "modified"ions and make 700 volts.probably the vortex still present even the machine was stopped.....