Source of energy, Testatika

[Shanti]

@Mike:
So did I understand you correctly, that you don't know anymore, from whom you had this information with the upscaling problem? But that maybe this information was from Stefan?
I refer to your message No 571 in the yahoo group from 2002:

A friend of mine recently visited Methernitha. Bossard told him that the big machines did not work, they were currently unable to scale up the machines for reasons that were not clear even to them.

BTW: Do you know, if Marinov again visited Methernitha and saw the machines after he wrote TTWT V?
For in TTWT V he writes that he only saw the two small machines and big machine in the works. So it would be interesting, if he ever saw the 3kW machine at a later time, or if he never saw it.

[mikewatson]

@Shanti


If I remember correctly it was Marinov who said that Bauman (or possibly Cathomen the builder of the Testatika machines) had told him they were unable to scale up the size of the machine. It was not clear either if the machines would work continuously. The facts speak for themselves,  despite the intervening 18 or so years electricity at Methernita is not provided by a number of testatikas but by the electricity supply company.
They told Marinov that if he joined their inner group and swore to keep the secret they would tell him how the testatika worked. Marinov refused because he said it was against the scientific ethic. It is not clear to me how many times Marinov visited Methernta.
Mike

[Shanti]

Thanks.
I always thought before it couldn't have been Marinov, for he died in 1997, and in your message from 2002 you said, that your friend "recently" was in Linden and spoke with Mr Bosshard.

[mikewatson]

Here is an interesting excerpt from someones visit to Bauman:-
http://www.rexresearch.com/testatik/testart.htm.[/size]

It was really impressive! One can hardly believe it, with this slow rotation. In any case, this cannot be explained in terms of bare electrostatics in the sense of the Wimshurst machine. The perforated sheets seem to have a key function... Beside the pick-up and the drive electrodes there are a number of small plexiglass blocks with glued-on perforated sheets, whose function is unknown.[/size]

As Adolf Schneider already mentioned, my colleague Bernhard XXX and I want to try to copy the principle experiment shown by Baumann --- without much hope to find anything extraordinary, though.[/size]
The device consists of a horizontal swiveling plexiglass arm with a small rectangular plexiglass plate at both ends glued to the lower side of the arm. The lower side of the arm is covered with perforated aluminum sheets (square holes), while the bottom of the plates is covered with brass wire mesh. Beneath each plate five additional plates are glued onto the base plate. There is also wire mesh between each pair of plates in the two blocks. From the mesh layer between the lowest plate and the base a wire goes to the two capacitors, which are connected in parallel . Baumann seized the arm with both hands and turned it about ten times back and forth (a full rotation was not possible, because the capacitors were in the way), then measured the DC voltage with a digital measuring instrument: 60 Volts. Then, as he short-circuited the condensers a loud crack could be heard. I don´t know if that already is an abnormal result...[/size]
On my question Baumann replied that with metal foil (instead of wire mesh) the device would not produce that effect.[/size]

[gauschor]

Stumbled on this as well. Thanks for reposting it. Building up tension by the use of these plexiglass/metal blocks seems to be essential. Another most interesting aspect in here is, that the rotor didn't touch the blocks. So there was no friction. And the finished Testatika neither had direct contact with pickup brushes. It's also noteworthy to mention that he may have "charged" the rotor by the act of putting his hands around it.

I've always started with some kind of Wimshurst or Toepler device to produce electrostatic energy, but maybe this approach was a mistake. Maybe this exact experiment above must replicated successfully first in order to understand the Testatika. Maybe something about the energy produced using Paul Baumann's way is different or more efficient than the usual approach.

There is something unclear about this prototype experiment though: it is said that layers of aluminium and brass are used. But then again one may remember that it was told, that the metal meshes on the disc of the testatika were slightly magnetized. Here's the problem: you can't magnetise aluminium or brass... so what kind of metal was it really? Iron?


Edit: ah ok, I guess I have my answer when looking at this picture:so the grid on the rotor is (although with "?") labeled as steel. It definitely is something that can be magnetized then.