No-One knows how it works!

[kokomoj0]

well i see a lot of people overlooking a very fundamental issu.

In order to get power out of anything there has to be a movement of something or a reaction of something.

In electricity, electron flow, opposite directions cancel out.  that would be the vector sum.

the only way you can get over unity out of any device in my humble opinion is to trigger one side with a little energy and take the opposite polarity reaction out as your source.  Thinking nueman motor.   he has large mass, one thing i noted everything tesla did was huge too as a side thought. 

So what i do not see in your tpu play is anyone getting rid of the back emf as in the renerator.   Next everyone is using one ring and you need two imo.

If i were to attempt a sm ring i would use 2 of them identical and configure them like the renerator replacing the renerrator magnets with primary coils then insuring that the regen pulse was used as the output.  which is to say an oscillatory regen action and see if that yeilds more energy out with one coil retracting and the other pushing sijmultaneoulsy.

you guys are trying to get this to occur simultaneoulsy in the same singular medium which to me seems unlikely to ever be successful.

Some of you guys are going to nuke yourself with this stuff imo. There is no amount of 3rd 5th and 50th harmonics that are going get over unity imo unless it is 1/2 cycled and the other half of the cycle can be triggered with less energy than the output.

for the question about the renerator, if it cannot be set into oscillation, that is biased oscillation as a result of resonance, i frankly do not see it working significantly over unity either, so likewise that renerator needs to be set into oscillation to give some value of over unity. 

i apologize if i bring up old subjects as i am definitely a newbee to this forum and subject so that is my quick looksie at it.

personally before i went mag less i would get a renerator working first, baby steps before leaps. then go for the magless version.

Here is what i see is needed.

1) 2 coils
2) use the pulse from one to trigger the other in a flip flop config
3) use the opposite pulse as the out put
4) disturb the the rotating feild with a small pulse from the opposite coill
5) must get oscillation as a result of the pulse trigger

This is what i believe will yeild over unity.

Worst case if over unity cannot be achieved just making an extremely efficient generator would be a great leap for mankind as well...

again just mu humble opinionm.

edit: deleted, magnet flow and tornado as they would simply divert from that statement it was an error srry  added vector sum

[lancaIV]

High efficient motor or as generator:
between 92 and 98%:
Robert Fradella,1976 !!!
Roy Kessinger
Joerg Bobzin
Helmut Schiller

There is not more the need to optimize the "non-plus-ultra",
but what we are doing is to realize in material manner what is known,
in the virtual,cybernetic world, as "ATTRAKTOR" and not an actuator !

S
  dL

[innovation_station]

or two in one direction and one in the other direction

i like that grumpy what if there was 4 rings but only 3 were copper?

humm....

is

[kokomoj0]

another thing i should add that is food for thought.   so now we have this pulse and that pulse has to maintain its value till it can be drawn off.   again thinking neuman motor.   it seems to me that a soft iron core of some type as a storage would would work.  in an air core the feilds tend to collapse very fast, thus will not retain to much energy.  iron cores will hold that energy longer but result in lower frequencies.  so it is a trade off.

but do you guys see what i mean about tickling something?  Another example is teslas aether collector.  he had a switch on it to a lower potential and by toggling that switch continually disturbed lets say "stuff" as an over all term.

i was thinking about this energy last night that is all around us in the cosmos and it seems to me to capture it one must disturb it some how.  In addition to be efficient one must tune it somehow which usually involves resonance on some level, or at least that is all i can think of to achieve this.

next if we want to do scalar etc and longitudinal waves it seems to me that length now would come into play somewhere as well.

cooks bars were 6 ft, that 6 ft number keeps popping up it seems which i would think all the harmonic lengths would as well.

anyway just thought i would pop on here and drop another dime, i may be all wet but then again maybe food for thought.

[kokomoj0]

Hello tpu peeps,

i stole this from IH's HHO thread and thought i would bring it here as you may find this usfull in working with your tpu's.  So the credits goes to IH.

Worth a peek me thinks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5OhZ9wT568