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Interesting experiment with Meyer's type cell.

Started by Bruce_TPU, May 05, 2007, 01:55:56 PM

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Bruce_TPU

May 05, 2007, 01:55:56 PM
My true interest is HHO.  I am working on SM's TPU, because my HHO cells need more power.

While working on Sound frequency today on the TPU, I decided to drop a mini underwater speaker into my experimental rig with a Myers type cell.  (6" in length, ss 3/8" center tube with ss 1/2" outer pipe.

At 20K hz sound (as high as my sound card gets) there was a DEFINITE increase in gas production.  This increase was visible and noticable.  I did this many many times to verify.

When I get a real sound freq. generator in about two weeks, I will continue experimenting along these lines, along with the TPU.  I want to amplify the sound through a tube circuit and into a mini underwater speaker and play with differant High frequencies.  I wanted to tell you guys about this, because I think there is some potential here.  I have not tried it on plate cells as of yet.

Thank you for your time,
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Paul-R

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May 06, 2007, 09:49:37 AM
John Worrell Keely reckoned on 42.8 Mhz as a crucial
frequency. Miles out of the range of a sound card,
obviously. But there will be an octave lower down that
will be worth trying, to be found by halving the frequency
repeatedly:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/PowerPedia:John_Keely

Are you sure that you are not simply shaking the bubbles
off the plates?
Paul.

pese

#2
May 06, 2007, 10:53:33 AM
Quote from: Paul-R on May 06, 2007, 09:49:37 AM
John Worrell Keely reckoned on 42.8 Mhz as a crucial
frequency. Miles out of the range of a sound card,
obviously. But there will be an octave lower down that
will be worth trying, to be found by halving the frequency
repeatedly:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/PowerPedia:John_Keely

Are you sure that you are not simply shaking the bubbles
off the plates?
Paul.

Give attention on the frequency !!

Peswiki say:

Exploding water with 42712.2Hz

This are : 42,72122 Khz   !!!


You can (double? or) triple the frequnzy from soundcard

PESE
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Bruce_TPU

#3
May 06, 2007, 10:07:56 PM
Quote from: Paul-R on May 06, 2007, 09:49:37 AM
Are you sure that you are not simply shaking the bubbles
off the plates?
Paul.
Great info about Keely!  Thank you.  I am not sure if it is vibrating the bubbles off the tube capacitor (no plates) or not.  Even if it is, it still furthers production somewhat.  BUT none of the bubbles on the outside of the outer stainless pipe (1/2 stainless 6" nipple) moved.  Wouldn't it be amazing if sound could be used to further weaken the convalent bond of the water, thus allow for greater production with the same amount of electricity?  Just thinking aloud.

pese,
How can I double or triple my laptops sound card frequency range?  This would be VERY helpful for all of my experiment.  Thank you in advance pese!   :D
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

pese

#4
May 07, 2007, 04:47:26 AM
http://www.tpub.com/content/neets/14181/css/14181_95.htm  HERE

http://www.tpub.com/content/neets/14181/css/14181_65.htm   Overview  = Oscillator

www.stormloader.com/members/pese/liLIST.html   click to science


G Pes?

Give attention 42 Khz  not Mhz !!!
Very big Difference

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