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New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !

Started by hartiberlin, May 11, 2007, 12:49:03 AM

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broli

So it always boils down to how much money can you make...simply called: greed.

God I'm seriously about to give up in this area, some people are truly hopeless. This world doesn't deserve any saving it deserves to rot.


unbalanced

  Good day Broli,

I believe he was referring to "success" as in creating a successful devise not necessarily
monetary success.

  All the best,   Unbalanced

unbalanced

This last exchange really hits at the fundamentals of the pursuit of this devise, life and the universe as a whole. It has to either Profit or Die. Even breaking even will kill it or make it useless. We have to make the devise "profit" create more energy than it consumes. This is the most fundamental law we have to design and engineer by. There is nothing politically incorrect about making a profit. It is essential to all life, it is essential to the concept of a successful PMM. Entropy is our enemy.

Keep the faith, Yours exceedingly, Unbalanced

rlortie

Their is no reason why anyone such as Bob or I that have invested many years and finances on the pursuit of a working design should not be justifiably compensated for our efforts. After all we are trying to re-invent the wheel, and I do not think there is much doubt about the significance the wheel has made to humanity. 

Most do not realize the monetary value of such a device. If the inventor manages the marketing and does not sell out to the money mongers he can be the largest philanthropist this planet has ever seen. In reality he could buy and sell Bill Gates many time over and still give units to third world countries or who ever he chooses.   

I work on a contingency basis, clients send me an idea for my analysis. If I find it either looking viable or questionable I consider building it at no cost to the submitter.  They often ask me if successful how much percentage I would expect. I tell them that if successful and managed as per my suggested marketing scheme, I would not quibble over a few hundred thousand dollars one way or the other. They simply cannot grasp the monetary value.

Howard Hughes was once considered one of the richest man in the world, his legacy and founding companies are still valued in the Billions. The management strategy that got him there was not of his making but that of his father, who formed Hughes Tool and Die company. Inventor of the well drilling bit used to this day.   

Nikola Tesla although revered by many, is an example of how not to manage a patent of such importance. Tesla sold his patents for 3 phase 60 cycle AC and signed a disclosure to George Westinghouse.  Tesla died of heart failure alone in room 3327 of the New Yorker Hotel, some time between the evening of 5 January and the morning of 8 January 1943, at the age of 86. Despite having sold his AC electricity patents, Tesla was destitute and died with significant debts. It is alleged by many that the State of New York paid for his cremation. We all know what happened to George Westinghouse and how the Westinghouse Corporation influences our lives to this day!  You cannot turn on the TV, a light bulb or wash clothes  without Westinghouse staring you in the face in one form or another.

Bessler was a very intellectual shrewd person. He had the forethought to know that if he simply gave his invention to society it would not be appreciated as much if earned. Knowing full well that it would end up under control of the same type people we send money to every month for our power usage. Power companies are now charging more for "green earth renewable energy than for Hydro, nuclear and fossil fueled energy. They do not consider Hydro power "renewable" simply because it does not meet the criteria of their master plan to bilk you of more money. What do you think they would classify self-sustaining gravity generated energy as? Do you think it would cost less, if so "Happy dreaming'...

And on a side note: I heat with natural gas, my cost per thermal unit increased 41% in one month!  Sound physics tell me that if I had a gravity driven device that required a governor, I could heat my house with the surplus heat said governor would create. Positive displacement governors are not that hard to make and would be ideal for controlling the speed of a generator to match your local grid power cycle, with the benefit of an extractable heat source. 

Ralph Lortie   


broli

I don't think it's smart to make a post right now since I'm so pissed off at what you just said ralph but I'll try and stay calm.

Money was never made or invented to be used in the amounts it's being used today. The ONLY reason it's being used with quantities this high is abuse. So a few can benefit from the masses. That's the only reason. I don't care what you think. But maybe you need to start seeing the world as a living entity rather than something materialistic where only you need to survive.

We are here to help each other. Together we can do the impossible. The moment you start introducing profit you corrupt the mind. Why can't you understand this simple fact. Sorry but you're not one hair different from the people that first of all brought us in this mess and want to keep us in it or second of all the skeptical sheep that run around shouting crackpot at everyone that thinks differently than them.

Open your eyes forget about money. Do everything you can to change the world. Open source your projects spread the word, build them for your neighbors teach others. Stop putting Inc. behind every idea for crying out loud.

Before you know it it spreads like the plague people will start opening their eyes to the truth of things. They will start doing things their own way. Energy companies will collapse, food companies will collapse economies will collapse, everything as we know it today will be gone. Just because of en idea spread by a group.

People everywhere on the world will be able to grow their own food in the quantities to survive. People will start purifying their own water in the amount they need. All Independence from some super corporate system.

The fat rich cats had their chance. They could have poured all their money in research and development for the good of mankind. Instead they were scheming on how to increase the profit margin even more selling the products of yesterday. Let's see what all those zero's on theur bank account will mean when everything is worth shit.

I'm still young so I'm going to work hard to shape this world into something good than more of the same crap. A technology driven society would be capable of mind boggling things. Rather than worrying about whether you can pay the rent this month or buy enough food to survive.
This is what really pisses me off. People on here that are after free energy which is the most revolutionary thing you can think of but not realizing it.

Please open your eyes people forget about profit completely, attract people that support you and work together. Free energy is not something you do in your free time as a hobby, it's something you do to change the world you live in. If you can't realize this then you're better of fishing.