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Overunity Machines Forum



New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !

Started by hartiberlin, May 11, 2007, 12:49:03 AM

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LarryC

Quote from: vince on January 27, 2009, 12:12:38 AM
Larry,

You Want Cheap!! Walmart USA (I live on the boarder) and I was just over there the other day and saw that they had steel bicycle pumps

1 1/2 " bore by about 20" stroke for $8.95. The shaft was only 3/8" dia. but I' sure you could get around that.

Vince

Thanks Vince,

3/8" is not a problem and it doesn't have to be that cheap, but I need the 24" or better stroke to throw the weights across.

Larry



LarryC

@All,

Below is a drawing of a possible design concept of Bob’s self-runner.
The drawing view is looking at the unit from the front /back with the main cross member transparent. The components are not shown in final front to back order for clarity. All cylinders are pneumatic.

The main concept is to capture the CF sling force with short stroke wide cylinders in the middle and short springs on end near 2:00 and use the captured forces to lift the weights up to the top with the cam and cam rollers (purple), springs, long cylinders and CF force assistance.

From my testing (reply #713) and it should be obvious, the longer the sling length before any pneumatic/spring resistance the greater the CF sling force captured, thus the need for the 24" or greater is just to allow a longer sling length. The testing showed that the CF sling capture force was 3 times plus greater than just the CF force at that radius, weight, and rpm. I think the CF sling capture force can be improved with more research and refinements.

Also, the impact force (reduction in momentum over time) is increased as the length of the absorbing spring and cylinder is shortened. Of course, this has to be balanced with the durability of the machine. The resistance should gradually increase to reduce shock, which both do.

Bob's latest machine picture could be close to this design with only the accumulator, weights, springs, and plumbing seen on front.

Regards, Larry

LarryC

@All,

Stormy morning, so I wanted document and pass on an earlier observation.

Bob stated:

The air cylinders I use as a shock absorber, similar to that in a car and it also stores
a bit of energy that locks the 2 weights together almost at the bottom.
(or edge)

And

A locking pin is used to release the springs.(springs have to be compressed for the first revolution) Springs

The picture is showing three snapshots from Bob’s video.

The first is before the unit is running at 12:00. Notice the top of the connecting bar is above the blue screen. The spring are compressed and locked, so the air cylinder is supplying enough force to offset the weights plus extra to create the lift to the edge. Let’s assume the extra force is just enough to lift the weights from the midpoint + 1 to the top in 1/4 of a second. 

The second is while the unit is running full speed and at 12:00. Notice the top of the connecting bar is farther down, probably at the midpoint + 1 position. Because the unit is spinning at 50 rpm and CF1 â€" CF2 force is very small at this point, the lift to the top cannot occur until later, using the combined force of the air cylinder and the CF sling effect.

The third is at the end after stopping at 12:00. Notice the top of the connecting bar is just below the top of the blue screen. The springs probably didn’t get latched, so the air cylinder is in equilibrium with the spring. The real proof that shows this is to look at the end of the movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lD_65ggChs when the unit is stopping; there is a sloppy bouncing effect while the air cylinder and spring reach equilibrium. You can also see more lifting effect as soon as he starts cranking the brake.

Regards, Larry   

worker

Larry and forum visitors, what do you make of the following?

(note, pls consider the CF in fluid transfer)