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New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !

Started by hartiberlin, May 11, 2007, 12:49:03 AM

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LarryC

Quote from: spider4re on March 03, 2009, 08:38:15 AM
I received an email from bob last week and he informed me that he is still doing testing, but no word on when the machine will be ready. Fingers crossedXX

Spider4re,

I am also wishing for Bob's success, but after working with parts of his machine, it would seem a very difficult task to develop a practical production machine.

Just think, a 24/7 energy producer that would have to last at least 5 years without mechanical problems. That would be a minimum required by the new big money investors. I know it is big money operation only, as I asked Bob to consider many small investors instead (less than 10,000) and he didn't respond.

So a 8' X 4' X 6' machine, weighting 3850 lbs with 3000 ft. lbs of torque. It would take a major engineering team to complete this design in several years. The out of balance problem along would crack most home foundations.

I have been very busy with other personnel problems for the last month or so, mainly with a very seriously illness of a close relative, so I have not made any new improvement on my CF testbed slide. However, I do hope to improve it if I get the time.

I'm glad to see that a few individuals have picked up the spreadsheet .XLS at post 736. Maybe some of you can continue the research and apply to a testbed, until I can get back in place.

Since Bob doesn't want to fully disclose the machines operations, our research may be the only way that we learn in our lifetime as to how it works.

Regards, Larry   
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rlortie

Larry wrote;

QuoteSo a 8' X 4' X 6' machine, weighting 3850 lbs with 3000 ft. lbs of torque. It would take a major engineering team to complete this design in several years. The out of balance problem along would crack most home foundations.

A rotating machine with a radius of 8' and  6' long; what does the 4' represent? Its stroke is less than 4' yet we are told it will deliver 3,000 ft.lbs of torque. Has any one done the math on this??? 

I may be wrong but that is the equivalent of 6.52  6 cylinder Cummins engines connected in series rated at 460 ft lbs each at 1,400 rpm as used in the Dodge Ram pickups.
Or a single turbocharged engine of 38.46 liters (2,346.97cubic")    Any internal  combustion engine that delivers 1 ft lb of torque for every 1.28 pounds of weight would be a very favorable thing to have. IMO A gravity driven machine of this capability is either a pipe dream or a deliberate falsification.   

Reference:
http://www.fordiesel.com/dodge/dodge-diesel-cummins-engine-specs.php

Sorry but I do not nor have I ever put any faith in Bob's torque claim, and true it will take one hell of an engineering team some time to substantiate this claim. I do not expect to see it transpire in my lifetime.

Do the math and prove me wrong please! In the meantime I am not wasting my time in anticipation of such a conservative force driven machine.   

Ralph

LarryC

From the Abeling gravity wheel web site http://mooieenergie.nl/.

Q: Where does the extra energy come from?

A: The weights are applied two by two: one weight is pushing/falling, the other one has to be lifted. Due to the invention of the dual lifting system , the falling/pushing weight will hardly be hindered by the weight that has to be lifted.
In the topleft of the system the weight is accelerated (like with shot put). The weight is moving faster than the system, and as the system catches the weight it is propelled forward. The path of the weights in the system is determined up front so the weights are always in a fixed position relative to eachother and that will reduce the drag of the lifted weight on the falling/pushing weight. The system will start rotating from any position. Extra force is generated in the lower left of the system and on top it is transferred to the system itself, generating the extra energy. If the system would fail to catch the propelled weight, the weight would be ejected from the system with force.


It sounds like the Abeling's gravity wheel is using the same centrifugal capture force to make the wheel run, but with a different design from Bob's. The weight power plant is expected to be completed by May, 2009. If Bob doesn't produce a commercial runner soon, he may end up being overshadowed. Of course these estimates are usually behind schedule.

Regards, Larry

hartiberlin

Okay, I am trying now to simulate BOB´s machine.

Here is a start.
The device is not yet fully complete.
Maybe somebody can join in to complete it, cause the next few days,
I have some paper work to do and not much time for the forum.

Regards, Stefan.
Attached a picture and the WM2D file.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

LarryC

Quote from: hartiberlin on April 15, 2009, 10:47:30 PM
Okay, I am trying now to simulate BOB´s machine.

Here is a start.
The device is not yet fully complete.
Maybe somebody can join in to complete it, cause the next few days,
I have some paper work to do and not much time for the forum.

Regards, Stefan.
Attached a picture and the WM2D file.

Thanks for trying Stefan,

I don't have WM2D, but I'll be glad to help anybody with any physical specifications based on my previous analyst.

Regards, Larry