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New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !

Started by hartiberlin, May 11, 2007, 12:49:03 AM

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LarryC

@Charlie,

Interesting concept. Let us know how it works out. [edit] Do you think it might work better with a follower and cam guide on the upper weight box? It would seem that you would have more leverage....just a thought.

Yes it is more leverage at center, but over a proportional shorter distance, should work out the same when weight rise, distance, and speed for the same time is considered. Also the rise at center would be many times greater and harder to tweak. With the bottom cam I should be able to have real accurate control over the rise. But let me know if you still can see a problem, since Bob K said his cam was around the center. Don't know if it was due to the actuator arm or not.

I could be wrong but the round object could be part of the drive gearing for his generator? Small gear on the shaft to a much larger one to ramp up the rpms?

Good point.

Regards, Larry

noonespecial

Quote from: LarryC on August 25, 2008, 12:15:29 PM
Yes it is more leverage at center, but over a proportional shorter distance, should work out the same when weight rise, distance, and speed for the same time is considered. Also the rise at center would be many times greater and harder to tweak. With the bottom cam I should be able to have real accurate control over the rise. But let me know if you still can see a problem, since Bob K said his cam was around the center. Don't know if it was due to the actuator arm or not.

Regards, Larry

The only problem might be (and its a problem no matter how we attempt this) is that the weights need to be lifted rapidly to take advantage of as much centrifugal force as possible and maintain momentum. Bob mentions starting his lift at around 4:00 and completing it at 6:00. This is only 60 degrees to lift the weights at least 13" (his design). This is pretty aggressive but probably necessary to make this work. You are right that you will have a longer sweep at the bottom to make this happen. I just hope that it doesn't stall out on you.
This is where WM2D would come in real handy......(hint, hint)  ;D
Charlie

broli

I'm stock on understanding the locking? mechanism. Kind of don't get the purpose of the levers.

AB Hammer

Broli

make some cardboard cut outs and just move it around and you will see what you need to do your simulations.
With out a dream, there can be no vision.

Alan

noonespecial

Quote from: broli on August 25, 2008, 07:06:56 PM
I'm stock on understanding the locking? mechanism. Kind of don't get the purpose of the levers.

When the weights are forced to the top during the rotation, the locking mechanism is used to hold the weights against the springs until about 4:00 (going clockwise) the locking mechanism is released which releases the potential energy of the compressed springs and aids in lifting the weights upward. The actual mechanism would be whatever would work. For instance, a pivoting catch and pin. However, it will need to be very strong as you'll see.
Regarding the levers, we are currently unsure of the exact geometry of lifting levers. Larry is currently working on an approach which may not require the levers. It would be helpful if you could complete as much as you can and present it and we can comment on how to proceed.
Thanks for your help!
Charlie