Controller circuit for Hilden Brandt motor needed..

[JackH]

Hello Ceres,

I tand by my statement that The larger the air gap between the rotor and the cores, the less power it uses.  However I must say that I intend to create and air gap of around 2 thousands or less in my motors.

With my motors when you take the magnets out the RPM drops to around half of the RPM when the magnets are in.  In the single valve motor(2" magnets) the RPM with the magnets in is around 1800 , with the magnets out of the motor the RPM drops to around 700.

I do not know what Nali2001 is doing.  The RPM drops on his motor when the magnets are added.  I think maybe he is puting his magnets in backwords.

I have no idea what you are talking about,,,,,Does your statement confirm the graphs in the Ogino Sanshiro US patent 6369479, page 6 and 18?


Later,,,,,,JackH

[gyulasun]

Hi Jack,

I can explain what Ceres meant if you have a few minutes?
Well if you have the free Acrobat Reader software installed on your computer then you could see Figures 5 and 6 in page 6 and  Figure 26 in page 18 of the US patent 6369479, ok?

To open the patent, (which is PDF file format) would you click this link: http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat6369479.pdf   This will open in your Acrobat Reader (assuming you have it installed earlier).

If you do not have the Acrobat Reader installed, then here is another link to see this patent:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=1CAJAAAAEBAJ&dq=6369479  and click on the Drawing to see the Figures.

The above Figures show a normal electromagnet and a so called hybrid-type magnet performance how much attractive force they produce in the function of the input current, at different air gap settings. The patent includes the principle how the hybrid magnet is setup.

Regards,
Gyula

[abigpicture]

I stand by my statement that the larger the air gap between the rotor and the cores, the less power it uses.  However I must say that I intend to create and air gap of around 2 thousands or less in my motors.


Now thats like making watch parts!  impressive..

I will just say hello to all of you. I found this forum by happenstance. I have read almost every post...it waa kind of like watching the show 24'  ...you don;t want the episode to end and you want to see what JAck does next.
no offense to the real Jack H here.

My interest in alternative energy comes from my background in food delivery.  Pizza in particular. I have
a store just north of the white house.  www.202eatpizza.com  ..  with the price of fuel and cheese ...its putting
the screws to profits.  My friend owns a large engineering firm and they have designed everything  from
turbine generators to plastic lawn chairs. Of course nothing like what Jack H has developed here.

we have been working on an electric vehicle as I want to have a fleet of them at my store in D.C. so all the
beauracrats can witness just a pizza guy  deliver pizzas all over the NAtions Capital without a drop of
PETROL!!! with no help from GM,GE or the US Gov....

Battery tech is just not there yet for storage...as I need to get about 80 miles per day..(more even better).to be safe...current tech is around  30-40 miles per day without recharge...

Jacks small motor is what I have been looking for...All  I need to do is extend the battery life to get some
more miles per day......to make it easier on us ...we are going to start with a used MINI or something...yank out
the motor.,tranny and whatevelse is heavy and uneeded..and but in wheel based electric motors....driven by
of course all electricty...we may just use a small deisel engine as recharge...(current tech and easy to implement.)..but Jack's motor or a derivative would be perfect..

Jacks  motor running a generator is a home run!!  I guess I won;t get to see it in this episode..

I wish all of you well and good health...especially Jack..

it is refreshing to see a small internet community rally around someone who they have never met in person..
except of few...

Ill be back to read another episode I hope..

Regards
John Andrews
Wash D.C.  (actually Vienna,VA)

[Nali2001]

Hello all,
must clear up some things.
As you might have noticed, most of my video's are not dowloadable anymore. I got some complains from my web host saying I way passed my 20gb monthly traffic for files. So I had to remove them.

What I have found does goes hand in hand with what Jack is saying. And no my magnets are not backwards...
The bigger air gaps does reduce the required input and that is because you reach with the bigger air gaps a point where the magnet don't switch anymore. I have had that myself. But if you tune air gaps size, magnet strength and input power to the right amount the magnets indeed switch and cause extra rotor acceleration/torque boost. The thing is that this is also the point where the (my) valve starts pulling more (watt) power. Plus I have indeed come to the believe that speed is not a thing you want in this engine. A few hundred rpm is all you want. Since if you go faster you are also reducing the 'on' time for each pulse and that means that the coils gets less and less time to build up the amp flow. Which mean you need to input increasingly higher voltage to overcome the impedance more and more. So "keep it slow" I also kind of believe that you want a "wide" rotor to allow for a long 'attraction interaction phase'

Regards,
Steven

[abigpicture]

[. Which mean you need to input increasingly higher voltage to overcome the impedance more and more. So "keep it slow" I also kind of believe that you want a "wide" rotor to allow for a long 'attraction interaction phase'

Regards,
Steven
[/quote]

Hi Steven,

Love your work as well. Based on my research I believe your comments are dead on.  I personally think
the width helps but even better would be length.....keep in mind..I do not have my head completely around
what is going on....however it seems that the collapse of the magnetic field flashes the magnetic polarity to produce a flip in the rotator and create torque...
hence a longer and or wider magnet would be even better...

Steven....your comments about voltage in.....space etc...I think are right,,,,have you decided or computed any ratios which would maximize the effect?

All the best...

Regards,
JOHN Andrews