Controller circuit for Hilden Brandt motor needed..

[wattsup]

@JackH

Hi Jack, I hope things are going well with you.

Regarding what you said about a dino, what city are you located in. Maybe I could call around that area and try to find an engineer that has a dino, that would be willing to come over to your home and do a more formal test. I have hired an engineer on one occasion to do such tests on a machine that was located to far from me and the result was no OU, actually it was only 78-80% efficiency. This may be a good way to get a good report done on the motor. All we need is the HP rating, volts in, amps in. That would say alot.

About trying to loop, you are absolutely right. The losses in all around efficiency of minimum 20% on the gears, then the inefficiency of the generator itself would not be a good way to show this.

Using a DC generator even if you used this with a straight drive to generator coupling, finding the right dc generator that can produce 300 vdc at the available RPM is not an easy task at all. The other option is to use a lower voltage but higher amperage dc generator and feed this into a 300 volt battery bank. This would generate more losses.

The other option of using an AC generator and a bridge rectifier would introduce even more losses. If you try to just send the generator AC back into the AC side of a bridge rectifier that is also being feed from the original source feed AC from the mains line, trying to unplug one and plug the other, this may cause phasing issues that your motor may not like, unless if your motor has a good rotation that it can maintain on the generator for a second without any power applied.

So I do agree with you that a dino test is the only real method to determine hp/watts relationship. There is only one real nut to crack. Once it is done, you can always work to loop it but not to prove anything since the proof will already be in hand. There must be thousands of guys trying to loop motive drive to generators systems and they all know about the losses. I have tried it myself too many times.

Also, please update us on the patent status. Is it coming along? Once you get your patent, I am with a Quebec group that may be interested in making a first test unit then speak with you about licensing. One of our members has a complete machine shop making medical devices and has already said yes to making a trial unit once the patent is issued. Hang in there.

[wizkycho]

hello Jack !

great job anyhow ! I'd only like to make one suggestion.
I've have read something a while ago that smaller the motor is the efficiency allso drops, but still I think You should go
for smaller motor (arround 100W of mechanicall output), then make it closed loop with some 40-50W dinamo (generator),
and put some 10W lightbulb (just for the show). Pack this all as demonstration - desktop "Toy" and You could sell it to 
very large audience of people...that way you could cut the expenses for material and make some profit...and much more.

all the best to You

Perihelion Labs
Igor Knitel

[JackH]

Hello wattsup,

Well I am just about to try anything.   If you have a guy that can put a dino on it an give it a try, I 'll work with him.  I may be able to travel somewhat to.

I built this engine for a car, but it needs to be dinoed.   I one that I would build one for each back wheel, and a transmichen on each motor.  But I have used all the magnet on one motor,  And I have also run out of silicon steel to make the plates with.

Hello wizkycho,

The smaller motors are not overunity.   The one I made with one inch magnets.    With 2'x2'x6' magnets was overunity.   This motor I am building now uses 2'x2'x2' magnets.


Later,,,,,,,JackH

[wattsup]

@JackH

Hey Jack,

Before I can do anything to find someone to do a dino test locally, we would still need to know the status of your patent and if it is about to go through since it has been way over a month now. What is the point to send someone to your place if there is no patent to then be able to talk about the motor openly. Do you understand?

Now I see you are working on a car motor but again, what's the point if there is no patent to protect it, and without a patent, you will not go into the devices finer points, building plans/designs, etc.

[JackH]

Heloo All,

I found out the wright way to build these engines is with the valve sideways.  There was around low RPM with it this way.