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Overunity Machines Forum



Controller circuit for Hilden Brandt motor needed..

Started by hartiberlin, May 19, 2007, 12:56:53 PM

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gyulasun

Quote from: Humbugger on August 14, 2007, 01:34:52 PM
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What I don't understand is that, if all of the above were indeed true, why bother building a motor with it?  Especially if the plan is to run a generator with the motor to get back to electrical output. 

Why not just use this huge magnetic flux variation that is being controlled by a tiny amount of electrical power applied apparently in well-orchestrated pulses and just hang some pickup coils on it?  What is the advantage of going mechanical and then back to electrical? 

Hi Humbugger,

Thanks for your thoughts. I think an answer to your above question is Lenz law: if you want to use the big flux change, you are to use output coils that create counter flux in the closed flux path that includes the input coil. When you use the big flux change for mechanical advantage, there cannot be so much Lenz effect in the same way...  Agree?


Quote from: Humbugger on August 14, 2007, 01:34:52 PM
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If anyone figures out how to modulate big permanent magnetic fields and make them vary from zero to 4x rapidly, using only a relatively tiny amount of electrical energy, then a MEG-like solid state device would seem to be far preferred to a rotary motor/generator unless there was some need for rotary torque output.  If the idea is electricity in/electricity out over unity (which would be a truly wonderful thing), what's the point of moving and spinning a bunch of physical mass in between?

Am I being dense here?  Have I missed something?  Seems like a lot of these OU inventions have way more elements than needed...let's find the part of the invention responsible for the OU and keep it simple from there!

I agree, and the only part should be Jack's valve as the origin of OU: of course we should continue waiting for Jack's patents coming out as granted, for he then will explain some more of his secrets... ;)  at least he wrote that!
On MEG-like device: again Lenz law is there and it somehow ought to be avoided. Maybe you have been puzzled by that?

Thanks
Regards,  Gyula


Honk

I have some bad news to report.
My friend with the laser machine tried to cut the non oriented lamintes yesterday
but he was not successful. The laser had troubble finding the surface due to the
black coating of the steel. And the material was so thin that it got bent by the
force from the cooling breeze and the laser got out of focus.
He figures he has to build a fixture to be able to cut the thin lamintes and this will
take a lot more time, probably several months before he can get the jobb done.
This is not good news. I really needed to test the controller more thoroughly.
I guess I'll have to use my original coils and just base my final testing on them.
I don't like it but there is no other way right now.
The next controller for Jack I can probably test on the magnet valves when or if they arrive.
I will probably send Jack the controller sometime two weeks from now.

I must say I'm really impressed by Jack's hard work to make the motors look so good.
It's such a beautiful piece of craftmanship. Let's hope it does provide plenty of overunity.
Magnet Power equals Clean Power

Honk

Quote from: gyulasun on August 14, 2007, 06:06:52 PM
Thanks for your thoughts. I think an answer to your above question is Lenz law: if you want to use the big flux change, you are to use output coils that create counter flux in the closed flux path that includes the input coil. When you use the big flux change for mechanical advantage, there cannot be so much Lenz effect in the same way...  Agree?

I don't agree. The Lenz law is reintroduced when you hook up the motor to a generator.
At increasing load the generator will get harder and harder to turn and this is the Lenz law.
If using the motor for a car, then the increasing need for power at increasing speed equals the Lenz law.

But if the Valve does work as intended then we have something more powerful than the force of the Lenz law and this means OVERUNITY with big capitals....
And then all kinds of power generation will open up. MEG:s, Motor/Generators, Cars, Boats, Airplane Motion and new ways we can't even imagine yet...and so on.
But I guess we have to go back to propeller planes if we want to use the motor for flying. ;)
Magnet Power equals Clean Power

gyulasun