Wankel Magnet Motor

[Paul-R]

I have not built an entire motor.

Your opinion is worth as much as any opinion based on half a motor.

[Honk]

Here's a working wankel motor.
www.lafontegroup.com

Please notice how easy he can stop the rotor. It's very weak. Almost no torque.
In a regular motor that's just not possible.

[Honk]

The wankel motor is one that I have seen running it's self.
However it would only run it's self and would only run about
three days and you needed to replace the magnets.
Remember the wankel motor uses repulson mode on the magnets
and that will depleate the magnets over time.
For any motor that will continue to operate for extended periods,
the magnets will allways need to be in atraction mode.
I have seen that with my motor, if I increase the current until it overpowers
the permanent magnet just a little bit, it will not run for long.
As long as I run the current until it only matches the permanent magnet it
will run for ever with out destroying the magnets.

Thanks,,,,,,,Later,,,,,,JackH

When the current in the coil matches flux field of the magnets = putting two magnets
side by side of the same size and strength, N to N and S to S. They don't get destroyed.
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I was thinking about the risk of demagnetizing when using magnets in repel mode.
Perhaps it's not a problem if the shape, force and thickness is the same on both
the Stator and Rotor magnets. Then no flux field will overpower the other.
I know that Jack in his valve equals the electro magnet to match the neo mag in strength.
In the valve, the fields are put side by side, N to N and S to S.
If he use a N50 magnet (1.45 tesla) then the electro magnet is set to 1.45 tesla as well.
Because the Neo is equal to the Electro magnet the Neo is not demagnetized.
But when he increases the field in the electro magnet above 1.45 tesla he will soon
demagnetize the magnet.

You can also see it like this. Imagine a 2" x 1" neo magnet. That's not demagnetizing by itself.
Then break it into two 1" x 1" pieces. Now try to glue them back together like it was before.
Well no you can't because the two pieces are repelling each other like hell.
But they ones were attached together and that did not demagnetize them at all.
So, if two separate magnets with the same force and shape are put in repel mode
they will not become demagnetized. It's only when one of the magnets are stronger than the
other one that there should be a risk of demagnetizing.

This makes me believe that when the repel force of the stator and rotor magnets are equal
in strength they must also survive in a wankel motor, just like in Jacks Hilden-Brand valve.
If so, then a repelled Wankel motor is easier to build and a more attractive design.
The repelling force of the magnets are also stronger than the attracting force.
That makes a more compact and powerful design if one should try the Wankel Motor concept.

Best of all. In repel mode one can use Jacks magnet boosted valve to create the needed
kick pulse to keep the motor running. The valve consumes 1/4 of the power of compaired
to a regular electro magnet to reach a certain flux field. That increases the efficiency a lot.

Then I'd run the electro magnet valve on my Flux Booster Controller that slashes the input
power by 9 to 13 times depending on the RPM. Using this setup might bring the Wankel to OU.

[acp]

Hi Honk,

Another thing I was wondering about is that there doesn't seem to be a full magnetic path in this spiral motor as there is in Jacks motor. Ensuring an enclosed path would  increase efficiency.

Albert

[Honk]

Hi Albert.

It's difficult to compaire these two motors in a fair way.
Jack's motor have tons of torque but it's only efficient at lower RPM's, but with my Flux Booster Controller I
think that we will get high efficiency and tons of torque at great RPM's as well = Lot's of useful Hp

If you close the gap of a Wankel motor it will not run. It slides along the widening of the gap seeking more or less flux.
But the Wankel Motor will need lot's of extremely strong and expensive magnets to produce any useful torque.
Wether it has to operate at high RPM's to get really powerful I just don't know due to lack of information.
The big advantage is that it opererates in power saving mode because of the small pulses to run it.