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Chas Campbell free power motor

Started by TheOne, June 04, 2007, 10:25:17 PM

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ashtweth_nihilisti

To Clarify for Board.

The Panacea Chas page is quiet concise and objective.

It provides an avenue for those who wish to make their disclosure open sourced to progress, warns against possible interference, provides an education on the political and economic conditions present and also shows the importance of altruism via Chas's intent. That is that this altruism is  justified to put this into the curriculum's and show how altruistic gestures of this nature have improved society.

Plus also offers a service to test and use his device for an R and D tool, as we are on Saturday.

I find this arm chair skeptic old fart who builds nothing and tries to justify OU by his understanding of  conventional theory [thats comical for me too],  who has only ever pointed out that We published Chas's claims made on Channel 10 (being the only mistake-which still needed investigation,) to be time wasting and suspicious, inadvertently  working for the oil companies or just a plain attitude problem, (both really).

Part if his attitude is criticism, when asked to build David Kous reported self running RV neon circuit and PROVE IT DOESENT WORK, he shut up, i mean whats a disabled man going to do ? (harsh yes i feel his attitude needs this to smarten him up)

Whats he gonna do, sit there be a skeptical criticize when he can, good luck tiring to end the energy subjugation like that and to all his reporters.

Not only this regarding published information on certain tests and information he had skipped and made a habit of making me post to point this out in many instances. This has pissed me off more then ever as my time has been wasted.

With this in mind, any more related posts by him will be ass holed by me, and of cause any of his requests.

?If you create your own electricity, heating and water systems, you create your own politics. Maybe that?s what they?re afraid of.? ?? Michael Reynolds
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org
http://www.panaceauniversity.org

http://www.geocities.com/glorybangla/cqtes.htm

Humbugger

Quote from: mramos on September 13, 2007, 09:40:54 PM
Well, I did not get the caps I needed to do my RV test again this weekend.  The RV experts/Ash gave me a new valuse to test, but I had to work and make a living and did not have time.  But I will :)

And I really do wish you guys luck on the tests. 

Let me be the first to tell all when it works, I have no clue, it works, I have one.  Please let me.

Before you judge people here think about the above.  Who here would not want free energy?  You think that includes Humbugger? ME? All reading this? Stefan?  You think Stefan does this for fun?

Again, I have heard/seen of nothing documented here that works.  If there is something that does, please post a link for me as I missed it.  Also, all that I HAVE built has not worked (I promise, I am not running my house here for free, if I was I would probably not be reading here).

Anyway, I still am with Humbugger on this as well.

And I did not know he was an an old fart?  Missed that post too I guess.

Hi mramos!

I'm only 57.  About the "neon" thingy...if your object is to charge batteries using a 90 pound dynamotor setup, I can steer you to a better way.  What Ashtweth, his engineers and The Compilations seem to leave out every time is any indication of what "successful replication" actually means.  I've read and read the materials Ashtweth has recommended.  I've studied at the panacea university.  I have yet to find any information that indicates what to expect in terms of charging batteries with the "neon" thingy.

There have been repeated implications and claims in parenthesis of (self-running) of the RV using the "neon" circuit to charge and then swap batteries.  This appears in the videos, in The Compilations and in many of Ashtweth's posts. 

Nowhere, however, do I see any information about the actual charge rate of any specific battery used with the "neon" circuit.  For a circuit whose purpose it is to charge batteries, you might think that information would be included so you could tell if you had successfully replicated.  The (self-running) claim is repeated over and over and over again, yet we have no data and no demonstration.

I for one will not attempt a replication if there is no indication of what kind of performance to expect when I succeed.  I have suggested to Ashtweth many times that he give some actual data about the charging rate of the battery when using a properly built and adjusted "neon" circuit and specifically whether or not it is anywhere near the rate of discharge of the battery running the RV. 

He never answers; instead claiming that all the information is right there and that I'll have to lay out for the whole setup and build it first to find out for myself.  So it goes with Ashtweth and panacea bocaf.  It isn't very conducive to trust or credibility, especially when repeated legitimate straightforward requests for very germaine and simple information are refused and answered with hostile, vicious attacks and personal insults. 

Good luck on your RV.  For certain types of fixed-load applications well below the nameplate HP rating, it is probably true that the RV can be tuned up to save some juice.  Self-running RV is a pipe dream.


Humbugger

ashtweth_nihilisti

mramos, if you wish for this information i can provide it for you. Enough  information is already provided in the compilations. I am also  in contact with the engineer. Also our tests of his circuit will be conducted this weekend before Chas.

mramos ill direct you to this comment

>Self-running RV is a pipe dream.

Skeptic attitudes like this will never build and improve the circuit and or verify it, if you feel this old suspicious fart can give you OU this way then perhaps you like him are better off to leave the RV alone and it is not for you.

If you wish to replicate David Kou's circuit, know that you have replicated it when your secondary battery charges and you have no reflection on the prime movers load battery.

Every RV's performance is different, and its figures will reflect this,  one figure will not show the same , as each RV motor is different, and will give you different efficiencies.

This is in the compilations, [again] So we can only say if your secondary battery charges then you have it, Davids RV based on his bearings friction will show different figures,  but the principle will be the same.

Gee have i showed you how useless the arm chair skepticism is yet?
i don't really care nore do i want PM's about this guy, just ignore the old fart and ask me directly in future.
?If you create your own electricity, heating and water systems, you create your own politics. Maybe that?s what they?re afraid of.? ?? Michael Reynolds
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org
http://www.panaceauniversity.org

http://www.geocities.com/glorybangla/cqtes.htm

Humbugger

Quote from: ashtweth_nihilisti on September 13, 2007, 11:41:24 PM
mramos, if you wish for this information i can provide it for you. Enough  information is already provided in the compilations. I am also  in contact with the engineer. Also our tests of his circuit will be conducted this weekend before Chas.

Skeptic attitudes like this will never build and improve the circuit and or verify it, if you feel this old suspicious fart can give you OU this way then perhaps you like him are better off to leave the RV alone and it is not for you.


I do not understand why Ashtweth cannot simply post this highly important and simple information for all to see, after having made so many public claims.  Is there any reasonable evidence and, if so, what, to support the idea that the neon circuit will charge a battery more rapidly than the RV discharges an equivalent battery for its driving energy?  That is the question.   I think the answer is no.  Ashtweth says the answer is yes but will not give any basis for his hope, belief, delusion, conclusion...whatever it is.

I'm asking him to put up or stop making false claims and luring people into spending money, time and emotional investment based on his personal unfounded hopes which he presents as if they were accomplished deeds to be replicated.  He answers by throwing hissy fits and cursing me and insulting me viciously.  Well, folks, I said it before:  Ashtweth, you are hoisting yourself by your own petard.

As far as me personally building anything at the moment, that's not practical.  I have a well-equipped lab that is in storage at the moment due to the fact that I am ill and physically disabled for the medium term which may possibly turn out to be the long or even the total term for me.  I have been building things of my own design and replicating others' designs for 40 years and I miss it rather dearly.


Humbugger


"Hoisted by his own petard"  ~  In older days, when kings and fortified castles and walled cities were the fashion, a soldier was sometimes required to ascend great walls under often vicious attack.  A petard was a very early device similar to a crude hand grenade containing a powder charge and some shrapnel.  One is said to be "hoisted by his own petard" if his own weapon flings him into the air and turns him into a battle casualty, worst of all if it flings him, now unarmed and badly wounded, over the wall and into the waiting hands of the castle's defenders. 

It's commonly used to refer to a person in an argument who destroys his own position or strategy through being overly aggressive or hypocritical and contradicting or confounding himself and making it obvious to all that his position in the argument is untenable.

ashtweth_nihilisti

@ Board

Id be skeptical about that, funny part is you think I'm joking.
Nothing needed to be stated by me.

@ Stefan

>Ashtweth says the answer is yes but will not give any basis for his hope, belief, delusion, conclusion...whatever it is.

We have published the source of the information, every thing that was reported to us, how it was reported, ALL instructions and have  many times already pointed this out to this user name. I am highly suspicious of this person as you know, and his attitude.

I would not encourage replies to him about this circuit,(just my opinion) as he already has been provided with all the information he requires to test the circuit and is still trying to steer others from trying it, also seems to be asking for sympathy now having wasted my time.

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Words that do not match deeds are unimportant. -  Ernesto Che Guevara
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?If you create your own electricity, heating and water systems, you create your own politics. Maybe that?s what they?re afraid of.? ?? Michael Reynolds
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org
http://www.panaceauniversity.org

http://www.geocities.com/glorybangla/cqtes.htm