Chas Campbell free power motor

[shruggedatlas]

Nobody has yet build a longer SMOT ramp of e.g. 1 Meter long and
a bigger height difference, so the energy gain is enough to
loop the ball back to the entrance.

I have been thinking about this quite a bit too.  If a ramp is long enough, it could get the ball high enough to make use of the elevated height.  If I get some time and some materials, I want to try this.

What I have seen from videos, however, is when people try to make the ramp too long, the magnets at the base are simply not close enough to get the ball started.

I think the most efficient way to test is to attach magnets to a couple of long sticks and have the ball in a plastic tube.  This way you can easily adjust distance and angle of magnets without having to manually reposition things.  And the tube will help with the ball not falling off the ramp.

[crazyman]

No Han?s I'm just being as colorful for the skeptical side.

I have never seen a SMOT demonstrated that showed more
energy out than put in.

burk,

posting under a different alias omnibus?

still not game to show your face? it MUST be ugly.

Hans von Lieven

[Pirate88179]

Has anyone tried placing the magnets at a vertical angle as well the angle for the track?  In other words, leaning them back at, say, about 10-20 degrees or so. All of the videos I have seen have them at 90 degrees to the base. I like the idea about the tube. This is so very interesting to me. It seems to me that it would not be that difficult to have a ramp that utilizes gravity to take the ball back around to the "start" position.  If the ball can be made to "go uphill" this should be enough gained height to allow the ball to roll down a curved ramp (C-shaped) back to the start.  I am new to this design of the SMOT but it is fun to think about.

Bill

[sevich]

Quotes from hartiberlin

I must agree,
that Omnibus sometimes is using bad words,
but I also understand why he is doing it.

Does this imply it's a "free for all" so long as Stefan understands ....now I can proudly tell everyone to FU_ck Off if they doubt I have a working OU flip-flopper wheel ...."YIPPY"!!!!!

As most people just don?t realize, that the SMOT really works and
is overunity.

Geee....that's news to me! But hey!...I Dare not doubt you!  (i'm not allowed)

How often do we have to explain it again and again ?

Stefan, (knock knock!! anyone home??) I guess thats your job mate!  why get angry? it's always gonna be! ...hey,  you're even skimming hard cold cash off this forum, so why are you scaring forum members away??? ....who gives a shit?

There are several videos out there, that show without a doubt

OK then, I'll look for it......if I cain't find it, I'll believe even though I don't see ....hows that for hearsay loyalty?

There is no point anymore in discussion.

oooops......close call,  I'll keep future discussions to myself. 

Only Greg Watson and Epitaxyhad been having looped SMOTs,
but as they did build it so small, in scale, the friction influence was
just too big all the time and the ball sticked after a few cycles to the
track, because it was too much accelerated, etc...

DAM !! ....I really thought OU was something that worked a little longer than 20 seconds??? ....O' well, I suppose you could call it  "overunity in spirit" 

The SMOT really needs a big setup with very precise mechanical
building and very precise control of the running ball,
otherwise you will not get it to loop.

heard you the first time 

But please stop the flamewar and hammering onto Omnibus.

That's right Stefan!!! ......anyone who so much as looks at Omnibus or Ashwerth should be exiled to    http://besslerwheel.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=1&sid=99c96fcc3c3ea21e4ec19e510b36b8e4     untill they've redeemed themselvs..........SHAMEFUL LOT! 

The SMOT principle works.

Well...as "Boy Georg Kunstler"  would say:

The future has begun

[shruggedatlas]

If the ball can be made to "go uphill" this should be enough gained height to allow the ball to roll down a curved ramp (C-shaped) back to the start.  I am new to this design of the SMOT but it is fun to think about.
Bill

The problem exhibited so far is that the magnets simply do not want to let the ball go, unless you allow for a significant drop right at the end of the ramp.  And the distance the ball has to drop to get out of the magnetic pull exceeds the vertical distance the ball has travelled, so unfortunately it has been impossible to get the ball back to the starting position.