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Chas Campbell free power motor

Started by TheOne, June 04, 2007, 10:25:17 PM

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Joh70

Hi Eddy, i agree your statements. Aether or something like that is the one and only explanation for me too.

hansvonlieven

Quote from: Eddy Currentz on December 14, 2007, 06:10:11 PM
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"One early example of proof for the existence of the aether comes from Dr. Hal Puthoff, a respected scientist from Cambridge University. Puthoff frequently mentions experiments from the early 20th century that were designed to see if there was any energy in ?empty space,? conducted before quantum mechanics theory ever existed.

In order to test this idea in the laboratory, it was necessary to create an area that was completely free of air (a vacuum,) and lead-shielded from all known electromagnetic radiation fields by using what is known as a Faraday cage. This airless vacuum space was then cooled down to absolute zero or -273? C,the temperature where all matter should stop vibrating and thus produce no heat.

G'day all,

I would like to clarify something here.

1)  A total vacuum has never been achieved in a laboratory  ANYWHERE ! In fact Quantum mechanics states that a total vacuum cannot exist in nature.

2) Absolute zero has also NEVER been achieved and in fact is suspected to also not exist in the real world.

If Puthoff claims to have done this he is a liar.

The main reason why ether theory is ignored by modern science is that it is rather irrelevant whether the whole universe floats in some penultimate soup or not. Ether, by definition is unknowable. Since everything is made of it in various densities, according to ether theorists, it is as much part of the observer as it is of the observed. That makes it unobservable.

Also there is no value in an ether theory. Science has come a long way by ignoring it and carrying on with the observable and provable. By contrast ether theories have NEVER led to any discoveries of any kind! (this does not mean that monumental discoveries were not made by people who believed in the existence of an ether)

What it does mean though is that for purposes of research and development it is irrelevant whether the researcher believes in an ether or not.
It is a philosophical question rather than a scientific one.

Besides, contemporary science does not discount the fact that enormous amounts of energy are "lying around out there" so to speak. The question is how to tap into those energies safely without creating disaster (ever heard of an atom bomb?)

Hans von Lieven

When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

sm0ky2

Hans

--------    "2) Absolute zero has also NEVER been achieved and in fact is suspected to also not exist in the real world.  "


correction, there are circumstances in nature where this does occur, in fact one is comming up in our solar system,  in approx. May of 2012, NASA is already preparing to do a series of tests in absolute zero conditions.

the planetary allignment will create a magnetic anomaly, that with a unique shadow effect will create portions of space between the outer planets of our solar system, where no light will reach, and the temperature in these spots is supposed to get to absolute 0
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

hansvonlieven

Has yet to be proven though, doesn't it?

Hans
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

hansvonlieven

G'day P-Motion,

I think most people, when they look at a concept such as the Bessler wheel think that it is an easily understood system that does not need much study to figure it out. All simple stuff, nothing to it.

Until they try and their ideas come to nothing.

What they overlook that behind that apparent simplicity is a very complex interaction of forces that continually change as to torque, direction, relative centre of gravity and so forth and make behaviour of the whole difficult to predict.

As to your second question, how do weights acting totally independently from the wheel and its axis influence the rotation of the wheel if they are not linked in some way, in which case they no longer act independently.

I other words if they are an independent unit they are no good to you.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx