New positive proof of a working Newman fan motor charging a battery

[hartiberlin]

hartiberlin-

I wonder how large these machines have to be to be of practical use?

This still has to be found out...
If the effect is  really in the conversion of graphite ( carbon) material due to oxidation
at the commutator, so via electron clustering will get free electrons into the electrical circuit,
one would be able to build just a solid state unit, just burning the right amount of graphite
at a sparkgap and thus extract the electrical power of this oxidation process
of the graphite into an accumulator.
Then you don?t need a rotating magnet anymore, if this effect is
optimized and it is just a direct electrical conversion of graphite (carbon)
to electrial energy with a high efficiency, better than a coal utility plant .
As carbon can be got from biomass this is also a green cycle and very cheap.

I wonder too if they can harm batteries by overcharging?

Well, yes,don?t let it run when you go to sleep or are not there in the
room for longer time.
Batteries can gas out hydrogen , so check them time by time.

Regards, Stefan.

[maxc]

HI all

Should I just spin it up and let it go. How neat do the coils have to be?

I forgot I had that old spool in the shed of vintage wire.(different wire  all was free) Since I'll only have about 25 ohms when it's done. Power will be pulsed in at about 24 times per second per rotation like Newman's first set up and 2 current reversals per rotation.

Mark

[hartiberlin]

Well yes,just spin it.
Does not have to be so exact in the spool.

Only just many windings to bring the ohmic DC resistance up
and have much induction L.

Looking forward.
Many thanks for your pic.

Regards,Stefan.

[pg46]

Stefan-

That is interesting. Kind of reminds me of the "magnegas" system. Do you think that we can take 2 carbon rods and using a DC battery system and high voltage to create the spark that we could keep those batteries charged up only having consumed the carbon rods? kinda like an arc welder setup? Also then, what remains after the rods are consumed? that is, any mess to clean up or toxic materials to dispose of when burning carbon rods with an electrical arc?

I was wondering if you or anybody else had heard mention the theory that it might be the "nitrogen" contained in the air that causes the extra electrical charge to occur with a spark gap? Thought  I read that around this website somewhere but maybe not. Their theory was somehow using what occurs with lightening bolts as part of their explanation.

mrd10  - How is your project coming? manage to charge up any depleted batteries yet?

I need to get back to my project and tune up that commutator so I can make a go of this generator thing.

Best Regards,

[hartiberlin]

Here is a circuit diagram:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2510.msg35115.html#msg35115

@pg46
yes, in a solid state system you would need
a big coil , a 12 Volt accumulator and a gaphite rod electrode and
another metal electrode ( which metal is best must still be researched).

This would burn up the carbon rod and the coil would help to
produce the high voltage to have a steady arc between the electrodes.
It looks then like welding, yes that is right.
Yes, it could also be the Nitrogen inside the air that
would releases the additional energy into the accumulator.
You also would have to tune this system this way, that
you would produce more RF arc power than DC power going into the
system from the battery, so tomake sure the battery will not get discharged.

Then the carbon rod would be consumed after a while,
but as it could be produced from charcoal and biomass
this would be indeed a green cycle and it would be more efficient
than to burn charcoal and heating water to run a steam engine
like utilities do it with only about 30 % efficiency.
With the direct carbon conversion you could probably get an efficiency
of around 60 to 70 %and use the additional heat and light output
also somehow. you only haveto make sure the ozone being produced
would have not to be breathed..and get rid of.