High speed, full rotation setup, Lorentz Law

[Thaelin]

At BTenzer:
   OK, I see your point. Not about the "actual" device but to what it implies. I can see where you are going with this. I am starting to see the effects that can be manifested in aluminum via magnets. Erfinder was trying to pass on this info in his posts. Have to go back and scour all his posts again and dig out more of what he meant. I so wish he would just come out and explain it. So much to share and still they have to play guessing games.

sugra

@ Sugra
you could indeed be right, but the whole point of what I am trying to get across, is not to replicate this motor, but the whole new thought process of a magnet motor, using magnets and aluminum and the Lorentz law to our benefit.

Here is another example of some unique characteristics, besides the two that Stefan has posted.  Somehow the unique relationship between the two could bring about full rotation easier perhaps then simply using magnets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gKr4Lnv0eM

Food for thought,
Bruce

[Bruce_TPU]

Hello All! 

This is an interesting find concerning our discussion here.  New thinking about the use of aluminum with magnets to achieve high speed full rotation.

I would also couple this with Tseungs lead out theory, concerning the offset wheel.  The two of these together would be powerful, I believe.

Sorry I am stuck in TPU land, but will look in as I find info pertaining to this new way of thinking.  Any Ideas or experiments you wish to compile here concerning one or both of these theories in combination would be appreciated.

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/revlenz.htm

Cheers,
Bruce 

[Super God]

Yay, finally something for me to replicate.  If it actually works I'll put it in my EV I plan to build sometime in my lifetime.

[specter]

Hello All!Ã, 

This is an interesting find concerning our discussion here.Ã,  New thinking about the use of aluminum with magnets to achieve high speed full rotation.

I would also couple this with Tseungs lead out theory, concerning the offset wheel.Ã,  The two of these together would be powerful, I believe.

Sorry I am stuck in TPU land, but will look in as I find info pertaining to this new way of thinking.Ã,  Any Ideas or experiments you wish to compile here concerning one or both of these theories in combination would be appreciated.

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/revlenz.htm

Cheers,
BruceÃ, 

According to Naudin page when distance between rotor and stator decreases the magnetic field in plate colapses - that's correct. But eddy currents tend to maintainÃ,  stator's field when resulting field (rotor + stator) collapse so eddy currents produce field of exactly the same direction as stator's field. Finally in rotor to stator approach stage rotor "sees" stator magnet with opposite to rortor's polarity (as it was) and field of plate again with oposite to rotors polarity. So basicly we have stronger repuslion when rotor approachres stator and weaker repulsion when distance increases.

This is how lorentz law works - always resist the change of magnetuc flux. There is nothing to replicate, it will never work...

[Bruce_TPU]

According to Naudin page when distance between rotor and stator decreases the magnetic field in plate colapses - that's correct. But eddy currents tend to maintain  stator's field when resulting field (rotor + stator) collapse so eddy currents produce field of exactly the same direction as stator's field. Finally in rotor to stator approach stage rotor "sees" stator magnet with opposite to rortor's polarity (as it was) and field of plate again with oposite to rotors polarity. So basicly we have stronger repuslion when rotor approachres stator and weaker repulsion when distance increases.

This is how lorentz law works - always resist the change of magnetuc flux. There is nothing to replicate, it will never work...

Never say never!  LOL  Hasn't worked is not can't work. 

My idea is to couple a series of aluminum offset wheels, permanent magnets, and fluid dynamics as talked about in the "lead out" theory.  Eddy currents are real with aluminum, what we must do is engineer it in such a way as to take advantage of these eddy currents.  Some lasers use eddy current, on a microscopic scale to "speed electrons" to relativistic speeds.  Like I have suggested before, NEW thinking is needed.  Study, theory and most important, experiment! 

Cheers,
Bruce