Successful TPU-ECD replication !

[Hoppy]

By the way...if Steven Marks is really under a patent confinement, couldn't he tell someone, who told some, who told someone.  How could that get back to him.  I mean hints are just as bad aren't they?  At this point he could just reveal it to someone and no one would know if it was b/c of his hints or otherwise.

Also, as far as the batteries in the 80s.  How do we even know the films were made in the 80s.  Is it because the film says 80 something.  I could do that with my camcorder now.  Can we trace back the date the films were made public?

Do you guys also believe the guy on YouTube that has the two rods, one made of 54 elements and one made of 53 that powers the 100 watt light bulb?

If this is real, what is the single experiment that produces odd results that idiots such as myself can understand?  Perhaps someone could translate this in idiot terms for the hundreds of other idiots that purchase stuff from this site like myself.  Also what does this experiment tell you in idiot terms?

Thanks a lot.

"Shoot...I don't even understand half of what you guys talk about."

That's because they have their own special language here.  It's called gobbltygooktechnospeak.

The idea of a "patent confinement" is pure silliness.  I like the good hard pointed questions you are asking.  These TPU guys are a breed of their own and off on many tangents.  I don't see anything yet that remotely resembles what we all saw on SM's videos.  The reason Steven Mark doesn't tell all is that it's either a fraud or he has been bought or scared off.  I have no opinion on which it is.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,962.0.html

Humbugger

Yes, but they have a lot of fun trying to emulate the master / fraudster - take your pick - and that's what really matters.

Hoppy

[innovation_station]

why dont you people open your eyes  you can not waste your lives blind folded forever

many here know far more than most think 

in saying that i donot mean my self  but im learning    and you all can learn too but it takes a lot of time it is a matter of how bad do you want it? if you want somthing badd enough then you will find a way to get it

ist

[acerzw]

@Hoppy, Humbug & LeeRoyJenkinsii

The device is real, all the possibilities concerning the device being fake have been covered, basically with the technology available at the time it was not possible. The original device was tested and certified by engineers in the 80's etc. Those who saw it were qualified enough and could not be fooled.

You are right that we use another language here, but as I am sure you can appreciate this is a very technical device, much of the technology though based on simple principles, harmonics etc. is cutting edge because it is being applied to a new application. The effort here is reverse engineering the device from a few grainy videos and some fairly obscure technical figures. But in summary when the research has been done, eventually the design will be simplified and published, people will probably sell kits and I guess you might even be able one at Walmart one day.

As to the patent issue, well you might not understand the idea, but Stephen Marks has been pursued and slandered and no doubt had threats to his life. If you look you will see that up until 15 years ago, anyone who developed a device of this type were brought out by interested parties who wanted to prevent it getting onto the market so their paymasters could continue to exploit humanities need for fossil fuels. And if they didn't sell out they died, had an accident, or committed suicide. So while I understand what you are saying if you were in Stephen Marks position you might be a bit more wary.

Some day soon Mr Marks will be given the credit and respect that he deserves...

Nice to see some knew faces here, and apologies to you LeeRoy, I was a bit harsh on you... (have amended previous posts, to reflect that)

Acerzw

[pauldude000]

This is not going to be well taken by anyone.....

Healthy skepticism involves using knowledge, experience, and ability to unbiasedly judge the truth of a statement. UNBIASEDLY, to re-emphasize. If you approach any new concept with the attitude that you already know what is going on, then you are biased.

Blind skepticism is pure opinionated trash. Harsh? Yes, and quite true. If you automatically assume anything to be true or false before you understand what is truly happening, before you exhaustively research the subject and examine the provided evidence in an unbiased manner, then you have based your viewpoint not upon the evidence, but upon opinion.

What's bad about opinion? Opinions are generally like anal orifices, everyone has one, and they are all generally full of fecal matter...... and usually based upon the same substance. 

Concerning the cliquishness, nastyness, and delusions of superiority. Yes, I have witnessed this in many posts, by many people, both builders and supposed skeptics. Predictably enough, it helps no-one, not even the wielder.

Amazingly enough, it is generally a small percentage of the builders, yet tends to a unification of the "skeptics". IE Some of the builders, but pretty much all of the skeptics.

Like I have said a million times before, it is easier to laugh and ridicule, than to think. Humanity in general tends to be a very mentally lazy creature from what I have seen.

Ther are going to be those reading whom this pricks their consceince. Fine, QUIT! Not quit researching, building, or questioning, but QUIT BEING FULL OF YOURSELVES.

This constant "it's a scam" / "you are a moron" / "You aren't one of us"  BS is just that on all sides of this equation, pure BS.

Builders, there is no excuse, unless you are egomaniacally viewing yourself as the next Tesla, are greedy as hell, or afraid you are full of it, share your input and info. You are "less safe" holding valid info, than if you freely share, since the people you are worried about already aren't worried about you.

Big Business? Make a working demo, patent it, and it will end up just like steven's, rusting on a shelf, unless you have more money to defend it than they have to attack. The Government? The will simply slap your patent and concept under the national security act, then you get to spend the rest of your life in leavenworth as a traitor if you shoot off your mouth.  The Scientific Community? They will merely make a laughingstock of you.

THE ONLY way to escape this garbage, knowing that you will not be allowed to make a dime off of it, unless you desire a cashout from a corporation, is to FREELY PUBLISH ALL INFO AS FAST AS YOU GET IT TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU CAN IN THE SHORTEST AMOUNT OF TIME POSSIBLE. Period. Otherwise, said info can still be buried with the elimination of a few individuals from the equation, who kept silent as they thought it made them "safe".

To the "skeptics".... Yes, you are smarter and wiser than the US government! Hunh? Steve Mark was given a patent... that is all I should need to say, but maybe you dont have a clue about getting a patent. IT HAS TO BE PROVEN TO GET A PATENT. In the case of "free energy devices", "over unity devices", etc. etc. etc. you have to prove your concept extremely well, since patents are not generally given in these areas. Generally speaking, in these specific areas, you have to have affidavits from legitimate scientists/engineers agreeing that your device actually does what you claim.

Scamsters can't get patents on verbal statements, hearsay, or videos. Inventors get patents upon explained and demonstrated working prototypes with descriptive working theory. Patents are not like stamps, you can't just "slap your money down" and get one, and in these areas even legitimate devices are rejected.

Steven Mark recieved a patent, period, end of story.  The TPU concept is as real as the air you breathe. Since steven sold the patent, and therefore all rights to it, then YES he does have to worry, unless he desires to be broke, spending a good portion of his life in court, and possibly a good number of years in jail if convicted. I think I myself would be quite circumspect in what I said, and to whom myself, being extremely carefull not to breach contract.

Paul Andrulis

[leeroyjenkinsii]

Can any senior builders/experimenters please post what the current status of this experiment is and what you think the results mean?