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Successful TPU-ECD replication !

Started by mrd10, June 12, 2007, 05:12:47 AM

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Feynman

@Ergo

The fact that people are frying oscilloscopes, observing cooling in coils, etc from 20-40V pulsed DC power input suggests to me that (in some of these devices) there is probably radiant energy input from the active vacuum.  I am especially interested because these strange effects are occurring during "sharp gradients," which are known in physics journals to be violations of the second law of thermodynamics. (which only applies to equilibrium systems anyway).  In any case, Radiant energy can contain both positive and negative components.  The negative component is responsible for system cooling, antigravity (mass reduction) effects, and so on.  Anytime you have impedance you have the potential for energy from the active environment to enter the system (be it positive or negative vacuum energy).    These are the same principles as "back EMF" which powers the Bedini systems. . .  Same stuff, different names.

Now, that said, I share your feelings that there have been no systematic experiments.  What really needs to be done is full documentation and posting of lab notes, components, etc.  I can think of a few experiments.

Experiment 1:
Compare sine wave to square wave... A) see if resonant frequency of TPU changes. B) See if power output is effected.

Experiment 2:
Systematically measure resonant frequencies using a photovoltaic cell pointed at the output lamp.  Then it's not "does it look brightest" , but rather a physical quantity which can be measured.  A) Measure the voltage potential on the output coil at different resonant frequencies.  B) Measure the photovoltaic output potential with various combinations of the strongest resonant waves

Experiment 3:
Try different coils (trifilar , bifilar, etc).  Do these effect the power output?

Experiment 4:
Vary the sharpness of the gradiant (in a square wave oscillator).  Does this effect the power output?  (SCOPE TRACES PLZ)

Experiment 5:
In the coils which seem to have a rotating magnetic scalar potential , put compasses around the coil periphery to measure the change in B-field at any given point in space-time during an interval of TPU operation.  Can we see rotating B potential? What frequency is it rotating at?   If none exists or is observable, why is this so? 

In any case, to get sustained over-unity in these TPU devices, I can almost guarentee it will need to use switching circuitry to capture negative energy to charge capacitors or batteries to power a conventional load.  Hitting the right resonance of the local vacuum might only be good for burning out equipment unless there are some bright ideas regarding "energy routing", so to speak.  This will require timing circuitry...

Another way I can see to get sustained over-unity in TPU is if there exists a rotating instantaneous magnetic scalar potential. This has been speculated upon during this thread.  If the rotating magnetic potential can be controlled via input oscillator dynamics, and  is generated by E-amp effects from the active vacuum, then you may have a COP>1 system ready to be harvested.   So think of this as a rotating concentrated magnetic potential (a "superpole" perhaps) on the coil .  If this is happening , then you could mechanically couple the potential to convert it back to positive EM energy, through an old fashioned generator shaft.  Now, it will only be COP>1 if the vacuum input is helping create a strong rotating B potential.  This speculation may be clarified through Experiment 5.

I'm sure there's more ways than outlined above.  Just keep thinking outside the lies which pass for official wisdom.


Ergo

Quote from: Feynman on March 07, 2008, 12:35:58 AM
@Ergo

The fact that people are frying oscilloscopes, observing cooling in coils, etc from 20-40V pulsed DC power input suggests to me that (in some of these devices) there is probably radiant energy input from the active vacuum.  I am especially interested because these strange effects are occurring during "sharp gradients," which are known in physics journals to be violations of the second law of thermodynamics. (which only applies to equilibrium systems anyway).  In any case, Radiant energy can contain both positive and negative components.  The negative component is responsible for system cooling, antigravity (mass reduction) effects, and so on.  Anytime you have impedance you have the potential for energy from the active environment to enter the system (be it positive or negative vacuum energy).    These are the same principles as "back EMF" which powers the Bedini systems. . .  Same stuff, different names.

Now, that said, I share your feelings that there have been no systematic experiments.  What really needs to be done is full documentation and posting of lab notes, components, etc.  I can think of a few experiments.
Perhaps there is a path to free energy but I'll bet anything that a TPU is not one of those roads.

Quote from: Feynman on March 07, 2008, 12:35:58 AM
Experiment 1:
Compare sine wave to square wave... A) see if resonant frequency of TPU changes. B) See if power output is effected.
The difference is between a sine and square wave is the harmonic content. The sharper flank the higher harmonic content.
But it's still just voltage, not magic.

Quote from: Feynman on March 07, 2008, 12:35:58 AM
Experiment 2:
Systematically measure resonant frequencies using a photovoltaic cell pointed at the output lamp.  Then it's not "does it look brightest" , but rather a physical quantity which can be measured.  A) Measure the voltage potential on the output coil at different resonant frequencies.  B) Measure the photovoltaic output potential with various combinations of the strongest resonant waves
There are many ways to measure an output. If the output is difficult, like high frequency waves, then controlled heating in a non inductive resistor is the prefered methode.
The temperature shall then be compared to a DC voltage resistor of the same size and type where the input power can be established by high accuracy.

Quote from: Feynman on March 07, 2008, 12:35:58 AM
Experiment 3:
Try different coils (trifilar , bifilar, etc).  Do these effect the power output?
No, it won't. The benefit of bifilar/trifilar winding is the posibility to increase or decrease inductance depending on how the coil is wound.

Quote from: Feynman on March 07, 2008, 12:35:58 AM
Experiment 4:
Vary the sharpness of the gradiant (in a square wave oscillator).  Does this effect the power output?  (SCOPE TRACES PLZ)
Knock yourself out.

Quote from: Feynman on March 07, 2008, 12:35:58 AM
Experiment 5:
In the coils which seem to have a rotating magnetic scalar potential , put compasses around the coil periphery to measure the change in B-field at any given point in space-time during an interval of TPU operation.  Can we see rotating B potential? What frequency is it rotating at?   If none exists or is observable, why is this so?
There is no existing rotating magnetic field. This is not possible in a "Toroid" or any other magnetic or non magnetic core.
No matter how you induce the field into the core it will immediately be present all over through the whole core or the wires.
There is no way of having a field "rotate" like people imagine. This rumor is coming from the crap reports of Mark Goldes.

Quote from: Feynman on March 07, 2008, 12:35:58 AM
In any case, to get sustained over-unity in these TPU devices, I can almost guarentee it will need to use switching circuitry to capture negative energy to charge capacitors or batteries to power a conventional load.  Hitting the right resonance of the local vacuum might only be good for burning out equipment unless there are some bright ideas regarding "energy routing", so to speak.  This will require timing circuitry...
There will be no overunity from any captured "negative" energy. Your'e talking about inductive kickback. This is not overunity.
Inductive kickback is a well understood behavior of coils. There's no magic happening. What you put in is what you get back in reverse (minus the losses).

Quote from: Feynman on March 07, 2008, 12:35:58 AM
Another way I can see to get sustained over-unity in TPU is if there exists a rotating instantaneous magnetic scalar potential. This has been speculated upon during this thread.  If the rotating magnetic potential can be controlled via input oscillator dynamics, and  is generated by E-amp effects from the active vacuum, then you may have a COP>1 system ready to be harvested.   So think of this as a rotating concentrated magnetic potential (a "superpole" perhaps) on the coil .  If this is happening , then you could mechanically couple the potential to convert it back to positive EM energy, through an old fashioned generator shaft.  Now, it will only be COP>1 if the vacuum input is helping create a strong rotating B potential.  This speculation may be clarified through Experiment 5.
Sorry, but this will never happen.

Quote from: Feynman on March 07, 2008, 12:35:58 AM
I'm sure there's more ways than outlined above.  Just keep thinking outside the lies which pass for official wisdom.
Yes, it's good to have ideas. And it's even better to try them out. Any of you wanting to continue the holy graal "TPU" hunt, please continue.
I have noticed during my time here at OU forum that the ones seeking the imposible usually have no or little knowlege on how electronics or physics work."
But this is OK with me. Continue to invent and meanwhile you learn whats already been known for long. At the end you'll end up being wiser.

otto

Hello all,

I didnt know that my magnets are not working. So, people, Im sorry that I posted a long time ago that my magnet is ROTATING inside my TPU.

I must be somehow.....  Now I have to see if my magnet(s) have a S and N pole. But I tried to see this rotation with various magnets. They ALL rotated. At a low frequency, of course. Hmmmm.....something MUST be wrong with my eyes.

Otto

Ergo

Quote from: Chef on March 07, 2008, 04:34:20 AM
Ergo

Just one question: What are you doing here?
I'm just telling you how coils work so you can avoid repeating the same mistakes over and over....

Quote from: Chef on March 07, 2008, 04:34:20 AM
Trust me, you cant assure nobody here, and as i see nobody can assure you. So, wtf are you doing here?
You don't seem to handle the truth.... To bad for you.
If you instead focused on learning about the physics of coils and electronics we wouldn't have this discussion.

Feynman

QuotePerhaps there is a path to free energy but I'll bet anything that a TPU is not one of those roads.

There is already free energy, it's been discovered over and over and over.  Bedini's motors are consistent COP>1 systems. Also See the patent on the Peacekeeper missile. There is an overunity switching circuit in there that the engineers had to "fix" to be closed to environmental input.  The examples are too numerous to mention. The phenomenon is real.  The question is whether TPU is a path to a solid state system with dynamics which can be modelled and controlled.  It doesn't matter if it's an exact copy of the original TPU, as long as we are interacting with the local active vacuum.

Quote
The difference is between a sine and square wave is the harmonic content. The sharper flank the higher harmonic content.
But it's still just voltage, not magic.

I don't understand this  part. . . you seem to be ignoring the steepness of the gradient (dV/dT). Sharp gradients are already known to violate the second law of thermodynamics.  A square wave has a sharper gradient than a sine wave.


QuoteThere is no existing rotating magnetic field.

How do you know?  Magnets continuously output B field which is created by vacuum virtual particle flux prior to interaction with mass. The dynamic flux requires no work because of the asymmetrical regauging of QED. It's a dynamic, not static process, although our equipment gives us the illusion of static magentic flux. So why can't you make a magnetic potential rotate? Remember there is no such thing as electrodynamics in 3-space. All phenomenon must consider system through time (in both forward and reverse time directions). Maybe there is a good reason rotating magnetic potential cannot happen.  But it's important to keep an open mind.  Conventional electrodynamics is 150 years old, and assumes flat local spacetime.  We know this is not the case (since 1916 with general relativity).  Any scalar potential curves local spacetime.    I don't see why you cannot have concentrated magnetic potential through 4-space.

QuoteThere will be no overunity from any captured "negative" energy. Your'e talking about inductive kickback. This is not overunity. Inductive kickback is a well understood behavior of coils. There's no magic happening. What you put in is what you get back in reverse (minus the losses).

I am not talking about inductive kickback or any of the other mind poison you will find in college electrical engineering.  I am talking about E-amp effects from the local active vacuum. What you get back is COP = infinity, providing you switch the negative energy into a sink which converts it back to conventional positive EM energy.  Generally this is a dipole like a capacitor or a battery.  It's all about the switching.  You are still talking about conventional electrodynamics such as the Lorentz regauged Maxwell-Heaviside equations you find in college textbooks. That's not what I'm talking about!   I'm talking about the ORIGINAL Maxwell electrodynamics (permitting COP>1) coupled with general relativity and Dirac's negative energy and 'electron holes'.   Are you familiar with Bedini's COP > 1 systems ?  If you are not, it might be good to examine their operation.  They are free energy, and anyone can build them.

QuoteSorry, but this will never happen.
Maybe not, but how to we know anything without experiments?