Successful TPU-ECD replication !

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Then this effect SM discovered was nothing more then what Tesla found previously Tube filament acting as coil  with loose coupling to what ?

[sfieszaq]

how it could work... pic

[sfieszaq]

Hi!
Otto I am interested in your work (TPU). At this moment I’m trying to make my own but a bit different.
My point of view is a bit different than yours. I think Mr. M.S.  gave us some hints but trying to cover “his invention” (it is his but he didn’t discovered this effect!!!) gave us taste of fake…
Let’s start:

1) Probably your  ECD does not need 3 sections. Try to do just ONE section but covering the whole mobius ring.
Two coils. One is control coil (CC) connected to PS and controlled by transistor/transistors.
To make this coil You should use fine wire.
2nd coil is feed back coil (FB) from collector. Powering mobius again and again.
It works just like yours but using only one section instead of three.

2) 3 freqs is a mistake!!! Probably is enough to use 2 freq or… just one proper sequence…
How to find 1st freq? Easily!
Connect CC to scope and apply freq to transistor. For the best result use PWM for it. What You have to find is just the critical time when your CC is ON and you can see your sweet point on scope. If time is too short  You will not be able to see your sweet point!!! This sweet point has not been created in collector!!! This sweet point is being created on/by the CC!!!
Add +10% to this time. Temperature of collector will change.
2nd freq is the same as 1st freq but has to occur with right delay according to 1st freq and with PWM ratio.
The same effect  You can get by:
- using 2 freq with proper delay (when f1= f2) and proper PWM ratio
- or using proper sequence.
1st freq is just pumping energy to CC. 2nd freq works like…spark gap! I know it seems a bit crazy., but it makes short circuit on coil when peak is at his highest.
Rising edge of  2nd freq has to happen when your response from CC, or collector, is close to maximum.
It works like ZPOD (find handout.pdf on INTALEK). Coils getting cold. Something  familiar?

3)The most important thing! MS used inside his TPU two coils… I am pretty sure that it is separated devices. Why?
- He used to start running one/two small magnets
- There are two coils
- Please check it out and find similar things:
Daniel McFarland - October 10, 1871!!! (US patent 119,825)
Nicola Tesla -  summer of 1931 electric car Pierce-Arrow “…two thick rods protruded approximately 10cm from the converter housing. Tesla pushed them in saying "Now we have power”…”
Floyd Sweet â€" your otto_ronette_TPU_ECD-V1_0.pdf on page 15.
Ed Leedskalnin â€" his holder (Emery coil; thetpu.pdf; page 10; I do not remember source but I have this file on my PC. If You need I can send You)
On Youtube  - a one or two similar solution with 2 rods.

4) Just play with 2freq, delay between them and ratio (PWM). Nearly all of electronic equipment use feedback…Why we didn’t?!

5) Why it is fake? Maybe two internal coil are our key to run this device. Maybe mobius is just kind of regulator/ transformer for it…

I am just starting to build my own TPU and probably it will tame me some time but if You’re willing to confirm my theory and add your experience I’ll be glad to help You as much as I can!

Greetings for Otto/Ronette/JasonO/ Wattsup

Regards
Adam & Nuno

P.S.  Sorry for our english

[Klaatu]

MRD10,
Could you supply a schematic on the circuit you have, the pictures don't explain alot and there alot of bogus information to wade through before getting to the viable stuff.
I would like to replicate your circuit using a mobius or Rodin toroid design, perhaps this will accelerate the design phase.

Questions:
Do you use a mixing console to introduce the multi-waves or use two signal generators?
What kind of cable are you using?
What are the wire gauges used?
I have a zillion questions I would like to ask but proper documentation would be a great help.

Some thoughts:
Although the screen may work for an RF shield, scalar waves pass through everything. It would be wise to Rf screen the entire device with a solid ground connection(just to keep the FCC at bay) and a friendly distance from the device under test.
If you are feeding back to the PS, use a depleted car battery as the PS to see if it recharges. Be cautious car batteries will explode like hand grenades if unregulated.

K

[otto]

Hello all,

@sfieszaq

sorry not to respond earlier but I didnt notice your post.

1. I agree that the controls have to cover all the mobius. Wound "all around"....said SM.

2. Im all the years working with 2 frequencies and they are OK.
First, if you can "translate" me the term "sweet point". Hmmm....is this working on all frequencies or....
yes, I already see that the 2. frequency somehow "shorts" the coil and the result is a voltage and current peak that blows everything connected: the coils, the scope, power supply, oscillators...

I would say this is the "positive runaway". I gave this name because the current and voltage rises to an "endless" value or better said until everything is blown. Im talking about 2 vibrated signals. Not oridinary pulsed coils. Its clear that at such a runaway the bulb shows no light, no energy to say so. This means that a positive runaway is good for blowing your equipment, nothing more.

On the other hand I saw when the coils vibrated, that there is just 1 frequency where the current dropps at a low vibration. I mean, every single collapse causes a current drop not a current rise like with the positive runaway. So, my conclusion is that there is also a "negative runaway". This happens when 2 or 3 frequencies meets at say 5 or 6Khz. Of course; im talking about the vibration frequency of 5 or 6kHz but the original input frequency is much higher. 1 is around 200kHz the other or others are to discover. Yeees, Bruce _TPU gaves us the secret frequencies, I know that but what if a collector is a little bit longer or shorter? Ferquency = circumference of collector!!! I tried to change the lenght of the collector, made a lot of tests, yes, the lenght is important.

So, Im now somehow tuning my oscillators to get 2 vibrational frequencies that can meet at 5 or 6kHz but trust me, its a f...g job because every morning I have another situation when I try to tune my oscillators: the day before everything is working just fine and as in the night the air is wet the conditions in the oscillator changes...a lot to "invent".

Otto