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Successful TPU-ECD replication !

Started by mrd10, June 12, 2007, 05:12:47 AM

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kokomoj0

#185
June 14, 2007, 12:07:25 PM
Quote from: c0mster on June 14, 2007, 11:54:09 AM
I thought I just stated in my last post that true input and output wattage needs to be determined, we need to do this be it windows motor, that guy with the newman motor, or the SM device. Please be patient, myself and the others are working real hard to provide real evidence. 

Kool!  i will have a cold one then and await your results  :)

Bruce_TPU

#186
June 14, 2007, 12:15:26 PM
@ Com

Your control coils looked to be made from single strand magnetic wire.  Is this the case?  The replication calls for STRANDED.

Also 7 amps output from your P/S in wire rated at 2.2 amps....Hmm....and they did not melt and burn up...hmm....I wonder why!  LOL  Think about it! :)

And besides this, you used a different circuit then the one posted.  So this IS NOT a replication but your own ideas mixed with a properly wound coil.  PLEASE RE READ Roberto on the NEW FAQ THREAD and then build it EXACTLY TO SPECS and then post.



Keeping it honest,
Bruce   ;)
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

gn0stik

#187
June 14, 2007, 12:26:10 PM
Quote from: kokomoj0 on June 14, 2007, 12:07:25 PM
Quote from: c0mster on June 14, 2007, 11:54:09 AM
I thought I just stated in my last post that true input and output wattage needs to be determined, we need to do this be it windows motor, that guy with the newman motor, or the SM device. Please be patient, myself and the others are working real hard to provide real evidence. 

Kool!  i will have a cold one then and await your results  :)

Hey Koko, we're all in a quest for answers here. You seem very knowlegable and capable. Any help testing would be appreciated. It's not very hard to build, and doesn't take much time/money. At this point, I have to say, the position you have taken from the very start, and your contemptuous attitude is not very conducive to someone wanting to perform tests for you, while you mock us, and what we've done. As far as we know, we could go ahead and perform your tests, and you would not accept them anyway, as you probably view us as being biased. Perhaps the tests would be more believable to you, if you performed them for yourself? You after all would be the most logical to perform those tests, as you would no doubt be doing it from a different perspective, and could perhaps be more objective?

Ideally it would be good to just drop the device off at some highschool or college, and have them perform the tests, as they probably have not heard of the device and have formed no opinions whatsoever.

Perhaps, you could save everyone a whole bunch of time by quantifying, and qualifying output?

You would definitely satisfy a lot of curiosity, and would be doing the community a favor.

BTW I'm a brewer and kindof a beer snob. I don't think you wanna spend the kinda money it would take to buy me a case of my favorite beer.

Regards,
Rich

chrisC

#188
June 14, 2007, 12:33:03 PM
Bruce:

As far as I know (I may be wrong), there is no electrical difference between the stranded and un-stranded magnet wire. Stranded wire is structurally better made and will not kink easily(?), for all intents and purposes they are the same, I think.

chrisC

gn0stik

#189
June 14, 2007, 12:40:14 PM
Quote from: btentzer on June 14, 2007, 12:15:26 PM
@ Com

Your control coils looked to be made from single strand magnetic wire.  Is this the case?  The replication calls for STRANDED.

no, and wrong
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Also 7 amps output from your P/S in wire rated at 2.2 amps....Hmm....and they did not melt and burn up...hmm....I wonder why!  LOL  Think about it! :)

And besides this, you used a different circuit then the one posted.  So this IS NOT a replication but your own ideas mixed with a properly wound coil.  PLEASE RE READ Roberto on the NEW FAQ THREAD and then build it EXACTLY TO SPECS and then post.


Keeping it honest,
Bruce   ;)

I don't know what you were looking at, Bruce, but Cam's is almost identical to Jason's. Oh, and he HAS read it, and has built it very close to specs. The specs which you apparently MISREAD!

The reason I say "very close" instead of "exactly", is because we're not using european wire guagues, and there are some vaugeries that have yet to be addressed in the document. Can you point them out? Oh, and by the way, he did light a bulb.

Or can I ask how your replication is coming? If you want to critisize someone about their build and tell them to not post until they have built "exactly to specs"(all in caps) perhaps you should refrain from posting until you have built "exactly to specs", and tested? And perhaps you should go back and read it AGAIN! instead of skimming it, and calling that good enough. Reading comprehension is your friend.

This should be entertaining. Just keeping it honest you know.

;)  Rich


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