Successful TPU-ECD replication !

[CTG Labs]

Hi Chris,

Myself and a couple of the guys considered this chip, however its no longer made and if you do find one they cost!  I believe if you contact Pese, he has a few and is willing to sell them.


Regards,

Dave.

[gn0stik]

Ahh good for him. Unfortunate for us.

Hope he has a good time.


Wavewatcher, nice bit of information. I have scoured the web for information on that event, and have found zero. No other cases of tv's blowing up, or imploding or what have you. No information on their mechanics. I guess the only way to find out is to rip one apart.

What I find interesting about your story is that the second and third coils were fed NO frequency, just allowed to couple.

If this is true, then the TV story is a HUGE hint from SM.

If you can find any more information, or relate some more stories about them blowing up that would be interesting. Or if you happen across one to rip apart, before you salvage the wire post a pic, that would be great.

Three rings. Quite interesting.

Also guys, for those of you who feel down in the dumps about this setup, don't sweat it... just yet. As I said before, nobody has fully replicated otto/ronottes "ecd" as yet. Seems everyone stopped short of driving the third frequency, and tuning as per their doc.

If you look toward the end of the doc, you will see that the real magic takes place there. As SM has said all along. We performed this test, although interesting, a bit prematurely. Now, the standard em people are going to tell me it doesn't matter. OK, logically you are correct. It shouldn't matter a bit. But if this thing really does what it does in those videos, we are going to have a wow moment at some point, when something outside our understanding takes place.

Let me explain what we have proven. Strictly speaking, yesterday Cam proved that with two frequencies, this thing does not behave any differently than a tesla coil. Regardless of what's running down the middle of them.

If SM came here, gave exact specs for his device, exact coil arrangement, exact frequencies, exact control unit diagrams, etc. etc. And we only fed it with two frequencies and proclaimed it didn't work, hehe. I can imagine the reaction.

So we have made an assumption. We have assumed that one frequency, or two, will perform, but to a lesser degree, than all three combined. IE. The magic will still be there, just not as much of it. Ahem... That's not a very logical assumption based on SM's notes, and the doc provided by Otto and Roberto.  Hence, we performed this test prematurely. It is a valid test, however, for later on. For now, it's like being told, "vinegar and baking soda react violently together," so we take that info, and assume vinegar, and backing soda, separately will react violently, to a lesser degree. When separately all we have is vinegar.... and baking soda.... Observing them, we say, "nothing special here", they do not react alone, so they must not react together. Absurd assumption, really.  

So, we got a little ahead of ourselves, we, being the group of people who were testing the setup and reporting back. We came and posted videos of interesting phenomena with only two frequencies in use, proclaiming a degree of sucess. Another false assumption. Premature claims.

My suggestion, is build to the end, then report back, and take requests for further testing. ZPE's test will be a good one at that time.

For me, I bought some testing equipment recently. A heat sensor gun, scale (also aids in building controls primary and secondary are 11grams), and a kill-a-watt, for true mains draw measurement at the power supply.

I may also use an inverter with a battery, and the kill-a-watt for draw in that scenario.  

So, if after we have done this, the device has turned out to be nothing spectacular, but a neat garage toy, or homemade microwave, then so be it. We've done our due dilligence, and elminated this, and moved on. Perhaps to Macedonia CDs setup, if we can decypher it.

We should not approach this as, "they proved it to me, therefore i'm gonna build a working TPU." We should approach it as, "They have shown some interesting results, therefor, I will test the setup."

False assumptions (on either side of the spectrum) and premature testing is not going to get us anywhere. I think what this has done however, is brought us back down to earth so we can now test this setup from a proper perspective.  

Regards all,
Rich

[chrisC]

Dave:

Thanks for feedback on the Max038 function generator chip. Yes, you are correct on this. It's available for an arm and a leg. There is another design based on the AD9835BRU (Analog Devices) which goes to 10Mhz (plenty) and that chip (one-off pricing) is around US$7 and readily available. Not sure if that other design allowed for a variable duty cycle.

If anyone has a stable, cheap and variable duty cycle function genertor, please post.

Thanks
chrisC

[CTG Labs]

Ok guys,

Just looking at the specs for the control coils.  My question would be then, what does Roberto mean by clockwise winding, I mean from what view point?

If I look from one end of a coil its CW and CCW from the other. So does anyone know what he means?

I would hold the former with my left hand and wind with my right, going over the top and back under. Starting left side of the former winding to the right. So looking from the right end of the coil I am winding CW??!>!!!>!


Dave.

[gn0stik]

Dave, I'm not sure how you are winding, because when I flip my coil around, it is still clockwise.