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Successful TPU-ECD replication !

Started by mrd10, June 12, 2007, 05:12:47 AM

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Bruce_TPU

#570
June 25, 2007, 01:12:46 PM
Quote from: sugra on June 25, 2007, 12:04:58 PM
@Btenzer:
   That is correct, that was two seperate gens running using only the positive lead from each. No grounds were hooked up. I have been trying to figure out how to achive some sort of terminating point for each signal with out using the grounds. Not sure how I would do it.
   If and when I get my fet drives in the mail, I will be trying that again with really short pulse durations. Then I will see if that output has any power asociated to it. Laterz

@ Sugra
I would bet the farm that it will! 

@ Everyone working on the ECD
If you want to see power, TAP into the bottom big coil of the ECD from a control coil, with Roberto's Mosfet, driver setup, and signal generator.  Next TAP into the smaller loop, from a control coil with IDENTICAL signal, but different source, ie..signal gen, Mosfet, Driver.  Tap into the smaller loop so that those signals will be sent in direct opposition of the others.  BE SAFE!  ;)

The next experiment would be identical with two frequencies, and then three!!

Happy Days!
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

ronotte

#571
June 25, 2007, 02:02:46 PM
@Darren,

hi, here are the measures done on my 6" ECD equipped with CC as per my TPU=ECD doc:

- Primary - R=0.5Ohm, L= 15nH

- Secondary - R=3Ohm, L=0.23mH

-Primary/Secondary intercapacitance = 485pf

-Mobius interwire capacitance = 74pf

It would be interesting to insert them on your model and compare the results!

Roberto

MeggerMan

#572
June 25, 2007, 06:56:17 PM
Hi,
The DDS 20 kits (x 2) arrived today.
Easier to build than I first thought, they have already added all the surface mouted components, not much of a challenge is it.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m25/kingrs/dds20_kit.jpg


Rob

chrisC

#573
June 25, 2007, 07:35:53 PM
@meggerman

Thank you for posting the DDS-20 kit. I sure would love to see your kit running. Please let us know if the output driver will drive the Control Coils directly or do you still need special fast switching output drivers?

Also, are you in Europe or the UK where you can buy these parts. Apparently there is no distributor in the US.

chrisC

z_p_e

#574
June 25, 2007, 09:10:21 PM
Quote from: ronotte on June 25, 2007, 02:02:46 PM
@Darren,

hi, here are the measures done on my 6" ECD equipped with CC as per my TPU=ECD doc:

- Primary - R=0.5Ohm, L= 15nH

- Secondary - R=3Ohm, L=0.23mH

-Primary/Secondary intercapacitance = 485pf

-Mobius interwire capacitance = 74pf

It would be interesting to insert them on your model and compare the results!

Roberto

WOW, Roberto!

Something doesn't look right.

Your document shows:
- 10.5 meters of 0.35mm wire for SECONDARY
- 4.2 meters of 0.5mm wire for PRIMARY

The closest I was able to match with AWG is:

#24 = 0.5106mm compared to 0.5mm and
#27 = 0.3606mm compared to 0.35mm

(So worst case match here is 3% error.)


Because the secondary length of wire is only about 2x the length of the primary, the secondary inductance should only be about 4x the inductance of the primary.

With the numbers you gave above for inductance, the secondary inductance is over 15,000 x higher than the primary !!  :o Perhaps the 15nH is supposed to be 15uH ??

Could you please double check your measurements ?

Thank you.

Regards,
Darren
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