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Successful TPU-ECD replication !

Started by mrd10, June 12, 2007, 05:12:47 AM

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Mannix


wattsup

@all

1) Frequencies will always be subject to the particular device.

2) You will not find one set of frequencies that will work for all devices.

3) There will eventually be a tighter range to work with, as Ronotte is trying to explain, but you will always have to fine tune each one individually.

4) Nature has its own way of dealing with harmonics that is generally not in a uniform, cut and dry manner, such as mathematical or musical designs. Random events can produce the best homogeneous results.

For me, the most important thing right now to find out is, if you are destined to make this device eventually self-operating, then you have to consider the device to be operated in two stages.

First stage start up with only mV input, pulsed into the primary CC and captured by the secondary CC into a capacitor plus capture the BEMF into another capacitor until you have enough power to run the power hungry frequencies (or you have to reduce the power consumption of the frequencies).

If these pulses (without a frequency) can produce enough start-up current, then you know your CC configuration is on the right track and you can then look to stage two.

But if you only look and work on stage two (massive current with frequencies) and the device cannot start-up with only mV's. Then this device will never be self-operating and you will have to re-work the start-up.

So my question would be, can the CCs alone, if pulsed with mVs or 1 volt, produce at least 6 volts into a capacitor. If you can just achieve this one criteria, then things look good and you can start with 1 frequency. If not, then the CC's or the general design has to be modified first to accomplish this. Afterwards you can work to get the right frequencies. Macedonian started a thread on something that could be a good place to start stage one. He's using a bifilar using only a few watts.

So some of you, like me, who are not on the top of the electronics ladder can start doing some easy pulsing tests into the ECD (no frequencies required) to see how this can produce a successful stage one. Maybe start a new ECD thread for stage one only to not crowd these guys. If this is impossible, then the overal design is flawed. While this is being done by some of you, others can continue working to better understand the frequencies, especially, where the hell these frequencies should actually be injected without wasting so much juice.

If any of you can supply any easy (nyophite proof) pulsing circuit that can work on 1 volt or less, 1/2 for the circuit, 1/2 to pulse into the CC primary at around 250,000 cycles per second, I think this will do. If the pulse could be variable, this would be better.

Last point, but you are not going to like it. Stop talking about SM. He is a total distraction to this endeavor. Stop talking about him and start using your own brains. There is over 9000 posts on SM so what more is there to say? Take back your power. THIS IS NOT A TPU, THIS IS AN ECD. The only power that SM's TPU is drawing in, is your will power. Every few posts and someone starts saying SM said this, SM said that, Enough already. I feel like we're being wacthed by the SM police. Who's spending all these hours, days and months? The guy's a loser for having shafted the world and you guys venerate his every word. I can say alot about this but will not say more here. Stefan, I know. Stay tuned to a new thread near you.

MeggerMan

@Wattsup or undercover MIB?  ;)
No offence, but there is so much wrong with this post that I don't know where to start:

Quote1) Frequencies will always be subject to the particular device.
Surely unless you have at least several different sizes of working TPU/ECD then you cannot know this for sure.

Quote2) You will not find one set of frequencies that will work for all devices.
See point 1.

Quote3) There will eventually be a tighter range to work with, as Ronotte is trying to explain, but you will always have to fine tune each one individually.
I agree with this if you mean tune the physical device to match the frequency/harmonics/beat frequency.

Quote4) Nature has its own way of dealing with harmonics that is generally not in a uniform, cut and dry manner, such as mathematical or musical designs. Random events can produce the best homogeneous results.
As I understand it, harmonics are mathematically based on the frequency(ies).
Possibly the amplitude is effected by physical aspects of the setup.

Looks like you're trying to capture BEMF, great if you want a DC-DC converter but of little use otherwise.

The reason we are all analysing what SM is trying to get across to us is that as you know, he has a many working devices, knows how to build one and is by far the best expert to help us out IF his hands were not tied by his contract. Pity about that.
The phrase "re-inventing the wheel" springs to mind, start from scratch if you want but I like to use the picture on the lid of the box when I piece together a puzzle.
You cannot just rubbish a person like Steven Marks, if it was not for him half this forum would be empty and there would be no TPU.
I think that we are starting to make headway and things should start clicking into place very soon.

Regards
Rob

wattsup

@all

It seems kind of quiet here. Hope I didn't ruffle too many feathers. Tommorrow or Monday I will open a new thread called "Steven Marks - Truth or Fiction" so if anyone wants to debate this question, it can be done there. Sorry for bringing it up here.

Meanwhile back at the ranch, I now have two function generators and I am looking at this third one on Ebay located at;

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Beckman-Industrial-FG3A-Sweep-Function-Generator_W0QQitemZ300124478198QQihZ020QQcategoryZ97199QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Does anyone have any experience with this unit and is it a good unit to bid on.

@ronotte

Do I need to have your last circuit built if I will already have the function generators. If no, where can I find the minimal circuit with mosfets/driver to build to match the function generators since I will be seeing my builder on Tuesday.

My ECD is built and I will try to find a simple DC pulse circuit to try simple pulsing into the coils to see what gives.

All the best.



lancaIV

Hello Earl,
some response to the question: "What is resonance ?"
Thermal 2 accoustic:
"I know",the KAPPA is written but not spoken like "Kindergarten" ;

from the saxonic "GOTT" (ex-"IOS"/ from IOVE)to the anglosaxonic "GOD",
the G or J or I is written but not spoken !
Denn er hauchte SEIN, des ES  OD in den Menschen ! The EBENBILD-principle.

so(m)nium to In so(m)nia:em sonho= dreaming

Why this is important:
cause the magnets-memory(Bearden,Radus) and probably
also electrons-memory(Rotoverter) !

resonance: physical MNEMO behaviour,detect-and controlable

S
  dL

p.s.: This explanation is religion group independant,it is only about
        the human tool called/named "language/french"longue",
        the importance is the conversation with the "quantum sphere",
        probably with an instrument like the Flanagan "Neurophone",
        the target is to reach the stadium,where we can use electricity
        with/for  scan-CAD-CIM/CAM-production,
        but at first we have to detect and obduct the "e-GENOM" !