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Successful TPU-ECD replication !

Started by mrd10, June 12, 2007, 05:12:47 AM

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turbo

That would depend on how you define core.
If you mean copper collectors,then yes i use a core...
But if you are talking about a ferromagnetic core or a core like in transformers then no.

Why?
Because IT DISTURBS THE EARTHS MAGNETIC FIELD.
Any piece of ferromagnetic metal will alter the field,that is why the units stop when you bring iron close.

Also if it is running UHF or even 245Khz like Steven talked about....which core can handle that Otto?
Don't you know aircore is the prefered methode in high frequency applications?

Steven NEVER mentioned the word CORE in his writings, NEVER so WHY are you talking continously about it Otto??
He did mention TUBES many,MANY times...who is using them?? Besides me??

Why does nobody seem to understand it is a very small road to sucess.
You have to examine the signs and information carefully.
That means there is no room for going off road and do things in a diffrent way....

Marco.

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I always start with tubes.
I wish people could use vacuum tubes.
Remember i told you that it was easer to experiment with tubes.
However if you NEED exact frequency then use tubes.
It should be a lot easer to use tubes.
Using tubes to control the unit is easer at first TUBES are NOT as sensitive as SS control devices and DO NOT require the massive amounts of feed back to operate.
There is an advantage in tubes just from that standpoint alone
It was much easer to make one of these things work if you use tubes as a control system
Use tubes from the beginning and then try to switch to SS for the control unit.
I have said, there is a difference between solid state control devices and tube based control.
I believe it has something to do with the fact that solid state devices in of themselves are so very dirty and also that they require such a large amount of feedback to operate.
Tube control systems are stable in themselves!
I am sure this will be helpful to anyone who has not been able to understand why using tubes to control the unit is easer at first then trying to use solid state devices in the beginning of research.
NONE of us could think of a reason why SS devices would not work. After all they did the same things as tubes, just better, didn't they?
The reason it took soooooo long to make a successful SS control unit is because we maintained that attitude for so long. Finally we came to the conclusion that there must be SOMETHING that tube control devices did differently then SS devices.



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i have vonder what is there in to the big tpu   what core is that 

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IS STUPID TO THING IS  METAL THAT OR FERITH MATERIAL  CORE

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Grumpy

Quote from: -[marco]- on August 10, 2009, 11:19:12 AM
That would depend on how you define core.
If you mean copper collectors,then yes i use a core...
But if you are talking about a ferromagnetic core or a core like in transformers then no.

Why?
Because IT DISTURBS THE EARTHS MAGNETIC FIELD.
Any piece of ferromagnetic metal will alter the field,that is why the units stop when you bring iron close.

Also if it is running UHF or even 245Khz like Steven talked about....which core can handle that Otto?
Don't you know aircore is the prefered methode in high frequency applications?

Steven NEVER mentioned the word CORE in his writings, NEVER so WHY are you talking continously about it Otto??
He did mention TUBES many,MANY times...who is using them?? Besides me??

Why does nobody seem to understand it is a very small road to sucess.
You have to examine the signs and information carefully.
That means there is no room for going off road and do things in a diffrent way....

Marco.

Any metal near the device detunes it, nut just iron.

SM stated over three years ago that the devide had no ferromagnetic core.  This was about 3 to 6 months after the initial TPU threads started.

The units in the videos did not use tubes, SM said they used solid state controllers, so why do you talk about tubes endlessly?
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sparks

    SM used a negative plasma as a core intentionally or not. Then there seems to be introduced some phased compression of the magnetic field within the copper mass which takes on the form of a coil.
If we replace a choke coils core with a copper core what happens when we hit the copper core choke with various pulses at various duty cycles.  Normally setting and resetting the magnetic domains of the core material converts the hf spikes (kicks?) to heat as the core goes into hysterics.  But with a copper core something else must happen. 
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rotaryfcg

Quote from: sparks on August 10, 2009, 11:05:07 PM
    SM used a negative plasma as a core intentionally or not. Then there seems to be introduced some phased compression of the magnetic field within the copper mass which takes on the form of a coil.
If we replace a choke coils core with a copper core what happens when we hit the copper core choke with various pulses at various duty cycles.  Normally setting and resetting the magnetic domains of the core material converts the hf spikes (kicks?) to heat as the core goes into hysterics.  But with a copper core something else must happen.
could it be a lot easier than that?could it be like cyclically compressing the flux that surround the conductive core(copper or not)?