Successful TPU-ECD replication !

[turbo]

and 12AU7's were used for multivibrators

What's next?  Square pulses?

Did you see the bifilar stuff in another thread?  There's your pulse forming in action.

No no no Gobaga  not 12AU7's it was 12BY7's
At least that is what he used in the amp.
We do not know which frequency generators he used but i think any tube based generator with a good range and clean signal will do.

Here:

I originally got the idea from electron circuits which use vacuum rectifiers like the 5U4 GB or 5AR4 etc.

As my memory tells me, I originally used three old tube type frequency generators coupled to tube amplifiers composed of a 12BY7- input tube and a driver coupled to a 6AS7G output tube. It was using this apparatus that enabled me to first strike those magical tones.

For the record:

12BY-7

Penthode for tv videoamplifier applications.
Heater 12,6 Volt
Plate dissipation 6.5 Watts, where 12au7= 2.75 Watts
Amplfication Factor 28.5, where 12au7= 19.5

6AS7G

High Power twin Triode

Heater 6,3 Volt
And Plate dissipation per plate 14 Watts

[Gobaga]

No no no Gobaga  not 12AU7's it was 12BY7's
At least that is what he used in the amp.
We do not know which frequency generators he used but i think any tube based generator with a good range and clean signal will do.

Here:

For the record:

12BY-7

Penthode for tv videoamplifier applications.
Heater 12,6 Volt
Plate dissipation 6.5 Watts, where 12au7= 2.75 Watts
Amplfication Factor 28.5, where 12au7= 19.5

6AS7G

High Power twin Triode

Heater 6,3 Volt
And Plate dissipation per plate 14 Watts

12BY7's

Thanks. That's what I get for relying on memory.  Pentodes can be "triode strapped" to give triode audio qualities.   

Hard to say what he was doing or trying to do.  Take the bifilar coil stuff - why do you even use a bifilar speaker coil to start with?  I can only guess that he was trying to mix signals for his spatial effects.

[BEP]

<RANTON>
For those thinking along the lines of transmission lines:

Lamp cord, also known as 'zip cord', is a basic balanced transmission line. Impedance varies with dimensions but most will be on the order of 72 ohms. This type of cord was used between radio transmitters and antenna up until the 50's. It is very lossy above the 160 meter band. It has very low loss at frequencies into the ultrasonic.

Lamp cord was mentioned in the relayed texts.

IMHO... The open TPU clearly has common indoor 300 ohm twin-lead on two of the coil segments (probably all four). The collector is the wire wrapped between the two conductors of the twin-lead (one half of the same type of twin-lead inserted between the conductors of an un-split pair of twin-lead.
There are, at least, two diodes connected to the above coil arrangement (one each segment).

What does all this 'opinion' mean?

1. All three major type of TPUs are clearly PASSIVE frequency multipliers that are also regenerative simply because they are circular.
2. There are no high powered circuits involved.
3. There are no external signal generators.
4. The term 'gain' as used in the claimed SM texts is not the same as 'gain' used in common electronics. In common lingo the gain happens in the switch or control. Gain in a TPU is in the interaction of fields.
5. Two separate transmission lines (or the separate sides of one) is the easiest way to have current running both directions at the same time from two separate sources.
6. There are no micro or reed-switches or the most basic logic circuits. There is no need for them.
7. Harmonics of the fundamental are not integer multiples. The wave fronts are traveling in a circle. Just like calculating circumference, pi must be considered. 

<RANTOFF>

Sorry folks. Like most of us I am growing tired of the SS/Tube/Core/No Core/etc arguments. This thing is not simple enough for a person unfamiliar with wave propagation, transmission lines, resonant transformer theory, the value of dielectrics and more.

My experiments stopped with a passive frequency multiplying transmission line within a very high voltage static electric pulsed field. Timed correctly, that static pulse created a 'child' pulse from the reflected wave. This child had no source and did not have measurable drain on the static field or injected wave pulse.

It is likely I must perform better measurements and will do so when I move out of my suitcase.

Until then, and when Grumpy has returned, I'll just check in once in a while to review the same repeated arguments and attempts at reinventing motors.

BEP

[innovation_station]

wattsup

lol

just harlous!  lol  fet death ...

this i have overcome after as otto says 50 or so... 

fets work great ..  if you know how to use them ... 

marco   nice work as usual!

or could i call u lee   lol

but you GOT THE WRONG TUBES ...

PLUS   take a better look at this picture i can start this from swipping a magnet ...  i know i can 

ist!  0 input    TRUE SM TPU ...    i think so ...  its an eather pump ...  push and eather pull amp .. 

and i know you comprehend this... 

ist!

this i built yesterday .. BE CARFULL IF YOU BUILD THE DAMM THING ...  OUT PUT WILL BE LARGE ....

IT IS AC PULSED DC 120V ON INPUT ...  POWERED FROM A 12V SOURCE ...  IT WILL LITE MANY BULBS .. IT HAS 2 OUTPUTS ... SIMPLE AS CRAP...   STUPID SIMPLE ... 
ITS JUST THE KNOWALAGE OF THE COILS AND HOW THEY INTERACT ..

BTW I CAN EASLY RUN 30 OF THEASE RINGS AS SHOWEN FROM MY CAP PAC MOTOR ...  FROM A AAJT POWER CAN STARTER FROM 5 1000TH OF A VOLT ... 

GETTING CRAZY  WONDERLAND ABOUNDS... 

[otto]

Hello all,

I see a lot of ideas here.

@stprue

I used a sparc gap. A long or a short one. Not good.

@Marco

your picture of the setup is fantastic!!! For heating I would prefer 12,6V AC.

No, Im not using tubes because.....hmmmm......its impossible.

Otto