Successful TPU-ECD replication !

[otto]

Hello,

@Stefan,

the point is in the MOEBIUS!!!!! Thats for sure. Then, when you have the collectors as mine you can try other ways to wind the controls. In the open TPU I saw a lamp wire as the controls?? I hope my memory is good???

Otto

[steve_whiss]

Hi guys,

Playing devils advocate here....

Thinking about good proof that this is OU. The readings and a bright bulb are indicative, not absolute proof. The issue is that the power source is fully capable of driving the bulb to high brilliance.

The doubt is - IF the power (out of the main power source) is available, could the circuitry not form a DC inverter of some sort and just be robbing power from the supply unit / over-volting the bulb?

The metering is alas useless as a proof of power output because:

* all {non-purpose designed} metering is upset by RF spikes and will NOT show correct numbers.

The errors can be significant as in x100 out, too high or too low.

Why? Those spikes mean that resistive loads are also inductors; you may be getting transformer effects, power factor effects as well as other absolutely unknown stuff (like free energy...). Digital systems all suffer from alialising (sample window misses changing voltage) so may actually be reading low!


If designing a free-energy demonstrator which is provable - why not go for a system which takes known trivial power-in and does something it clearly could never do?

Say a low-power version of the same rig. Drive from solar cells and light a torch bulb.

Proof then is - the circuit will run by holding the solar cell to the lit bulb. Any other light - is free energy and unquestionable proof. This would normally never work!


For the present replication -

   1) on power-in side:

   a) run system from fully charged car battery until exhausted / reaches known voltage
   b) then measure power-in (of steady DC) to fully recharge battery.

   Any RF spike damage to the battery will likely reduce capacity - so being less able to take power means it has a shorter recharge time (hits its capacity ceiling earlier). This gives a false (too low) recharge reading - so repeat this several times looking for battery deterioration. Measure this and correct.

   2) on power-out side:

   go for mechanical proof vs. gravity e.g.

   drive a motor to lift a weight, run a pump to lift water etc. and calculate the energy.

An alternative is to GET RID of all those spikes and go to either of a DC or a pure AC sinusoid system. These are the things test meters are designed to read OK.

What is known of the physics / natural world would suggest that AC is a good choice; a free-energy mechanism is likely to work in sinusoids (like much of the rest of physics).

No g'ttees though - it might operate via bursts of quanta

If 180K Hz is a sweet-spot, a sinusoid AC rig should show effects at 180K too.


Why say all this stuff? My background has been in Quality Assurance. Part of this is to critique your own work - before your customer / other guy / your boss does. If you know the areas of weakness, they can be fixed.

Hope that is a help.

[bob.rennips]

Whilst waiting on the exact driver as used by Jason I thought I'd do a couple of tests.

I wanted to see if I could capture what was happening, signal wise, when say a 90khz and 180khz was 'mixed' in a coil.

To do this I wrapped a standard solenoid coil. This is the mixed signal coil. On top of this two parallel wires wrapped together to produce another two coils. i.e. As if wrapping a bifilar coil.

Into the two parallel wrapped coils I fed 90hz into one and 180hz into the other. The attached image shows the 180hz on the top trace, the 90hz I've drawn in in red, the bottom trace is the resultant output. The drawn in red line on the lower trace is the 0V level.

The staircase on the output goes down because the input signal are synchronised on a rising edge. I'll try moving the input signal to synchronise on the trailing edge so that the staircase goes up.

If this output were DC shifted up say 100V, you would have a situation where, in the case of a rising staircase, you would have progressive dc pulses WITHOUT A CURRENT REVERSAL. We know from Tesla that Radiant Energy occurs when pulses are applied in such a way that their is no current reversal... Further more, if this staircase effect was to occur on a high voltage spike, due to further mixing with other coils and you have the situation where you are generating high voltage DC, non reversing pulses.

I think part of the puzzle is to get this staircase effect happening on the leading edge of very high voltage BEMF pulses.

EDIT: I had the AC button pressed on my scope instead of the DC. I've therefore redrawn the 0V level on the attached image. The 0V level is at the bottom of the lower trace NOT centered on the lower trace.

Okay, but then your red lower frequency must have double the amplitude of your green square wave,otherwise you will
not get this staircase wave just by adding them up...

I would have expected a 3 level staircase with the same amplitude for the input square waves. 1 high, 2 and 3 in the middle, and 1 low. I checked the output from the mosfet drivers and the square waves from the drivers are the same amplitude...

[bob.rennips]

I have to say I'm looking forward to replicating this device. Drivers will be here tomorrow morning !!

These are some of the tests I have in mind:

1. Once I have the two frequency lighting of the bulb. What happens if I gradually reduce the supply voltage ? Is there a sudden cut-off point where the bulb turns off or does it reduce brightness gradually ?

2. What happens if I disconnect one, or other, or both of the mobius coils ?

3. What happens if I disconnect one of the control coils ?

4. What happens if I switch in one or more bulbs in series ?

5. What happens if I switch in one or more bulbs in parallel ?

[louis]

is this how the outputs of the 7307 are wired, as ottos symbols are a little off.
and having never used mosfets , and having only just enough i dont want to destroy
them. i understand the gates are joined its just the other pins i was curious about.