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Successful TPU-ECD replication !

Started by mrd10, June 12, 2007, 05:12:47 AM

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otto

Hello all,

sorry, Im weekends off-line.

@Motorcoach1

thanks for the link and your words.

@Robert

false claims? OK. Then say us the right claims.
My progress?? No comment at this moment.
I didnt spent any money. I have a lot of wires and a lot of time, Im learning. I didnt say that Im the best and would never say it.

@Acerzw

This weekend I was working with a Rodin coil collektor. Pulsed this collector with 2 controlls and 3 frequencies. Result: fantastic.
Then I used a Mobius collector with 1 control but pulsed this 1 collector with 3 frequencies. Input 12V/5A!!! Yes, 5A input. Output not 1 f...g Watt!!!!  HA!!!!  Thats a "great" job!!!

I posted on Friday that my Rodin coil has 36 poles. NO!!! I was wrong. It has only 12 poles, sorry guys!!

I made my Mobius like this: a wire, folded to half and then again folded and at the end, twisted. This was then a cable. Look here: http://www.littlemountainmudge.com/mobiuscontinuosknot/htm
I hope I wrighted it in the right manner!

I dont like the twisted wires in my collectors. This week I want to build another Mobius, a better one, I hope.

@Tosky

hot = sooo hot that you easily can burn your fingers.
cold = maybe colder as the air arround me.

Sorry, I cant measure it. No data because I dont want to mislead. The point is that my work is "under construction" and there could be a lot of changes.
But what I know for sure is that 2 metals are used in the TPU. The point is what metals???? Various metals reacts in various ways when they are pulsed. Yes, Im pulsing the metals and then driving my coils with the signals from the metals. Veeeery loud and interesting things are going on. Loud because I can hear the switching of my MOSFETs.

Otto


ronotte

Hello Otto,

thanks for the info about your experimenting.

About Rodin tests may I suggest the other way around?  I mean inserting into the Rodin a Mobius collector and use the Rodin as a single Control Coil pulsed with 3 freqs?

Roberto

otto

Hello all,

@Roberto

I did it, of course. Its ....hmmmm.....weird, crazy. I connected a Rodin coil + a Mobius coil, both as collectors and then I pulsed my 2 controls with 3 frequencies. You must know that a Mobius allone, reacts when turning east - west .....when I have an aluminium ring INSIDE or a little over the Mobius, the voltage dropps a little and when an iron ring is INSIDE the Mobius the voltage dropps a lot and......this IS the reason I sayd on Friday that I have to wright down every step Im doing because a lot is going on. HA!!!  I have first to clear up in my head what Im doing. As I sayd before, with this Mobius I have NO output. Zero, nothing. But I have to optimise my Mobius. For sure I now know that we need 4 control coils.
How I know about 4 controls??? I made a Mobius and 1 of my controls but in the manner that I could move this control all over the Mobius. My best signal or sayd better, my biggest output voltage was exact 180? away from the output. The nodes of my Mobius were at 0? , 120? and 240? . Its a Mobius builded like in the link from my last post.
I know its not logic because I expected the best output voltage at or near the nodes but Im wrighting what I saw.

Otto

PS: I know that a Rodin coil is invented AFTER the TPU. Im just looking for similarities.

ronotte

Hi all,

@otto

while you are doing your tests with Rodin coils, I as well have almost completed a series of verifications about the possibility to use a more conventional and simpler approach in order to obtain what achieved by SM.

In particular I tried to make use, as suggested by some other, of a central transformer/Mixer in order to isolate/drive:

?   The Collector.
?   All the control coils.
?   The Load (lamp).
?   The input signal source.

With that kind of optic I took one of mine standard ECD (equipped with 2 CCs and single turn Mobius on Al /Cu heath sink) and applied the up mentioned configuration?but pay attention?I did not put any Mosfet switch, just connected each ECD coil to it?s own equivalent (coil) onto a ferrite mixer torrid. The ferrite 10 cm. diam. torrid were coiled with 4 x 50 turns coils (0.25 mm enamelled wire).

PRELIMINARY RESULTS APPLYING SINUSOIDAL SIGNAL
Using my function generator settled to sinusoidal output I applied  about 5V ptp signal and found strong resonance only at 4 ? 6 MHz range (output on load about 20 ? 25 V?. little difference removing the lamp load). NO signal output on other freq range. NO light on the lamp of course.

PRELIMINARY RESULTS APPLYING SQUAREWAVE SIGNAL
Similar results using square-wave as input signal. This time I see spikes on lamp ( 50V range) due to capacitive coupling. Resonance in this case is at difference freq but always in said range. No light on lamp

PRELIMINARY RESULTS APPLYING AUDIO MUSIC  SIGNAL
I tried to input the Mixer with the Loud-Speaker output of a transistor radio tuned on a strong music station. (about 0.5V of signal).  No way to obtain any output signal on load lamp. Tried to rise the input coil to 3 x 50 turns. NO changes in output.

PRELIMINARY CONCLUSION
Clearly the tests run cannot be considered exhaustive as for sure the coils impedances of the torrid Mixer were certainly not fully matched with their counterpart on ECD, but the impression is that the sinusoidal approach is for the moment not giving useful indications.

Next tests will be using as input 2 or 3 pre-mixed sinusoidal freq.

Fun is continuing.

Roberto

rensseak

Quote from: otto on September 24, 2007, 02:18:03 AM


@Tosky

hot = sooo hot that you easily can burn your fingers.
cold = maybe colder as the air arround me.

Otto


Hallo Otto,

also hot (hei?) ist nur eins, n?mlich ein Frauenarsch. Wenn dann h?chstens warm.  ;D

Aber soetwas w?rde TOSKY wahrscheinlich auch nicht verstehen!

Der mu?te jetzt sein, um bei dir die Stimmung etwas aufzuheitern.  ;D ::)

Gru?
Norbert