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Alberto Molina Martinez patent

Started by syncron, June 21, 2007, 08:53:51 AM

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EMdevices

I'm not sure if you need a prototype or not for a patent in the US, I think the answer is no, unless they request it.   

My patent (along with 2 others) was not required to show a prototype, but we wrote it based on the research we did, so yes we did have a "prototype"

I know about the skeptical teachers, I had a hard time convincing mine :)

I would say the Molina motor is definitely Synchronous!!   There is no slip since the rotor is not rotating.

Try and build it, I'll be curious to see what you come up with.  You might be the envy if you get it to work.  :)

EM

Motorcoach1

I vote build it !  doors only open when you push them .... PLease post the patient in PDF form here so we can all read it and see what we come up with for sugestions. OK now satrt your parts list and format journal to work from. thanks Mike

oouthere

I built the torrodial generator with the Martinez supposedly being next....but I got side tracked with the rotoverter as it is a proven performer.

The torrodial generator is not o/u.  Just beware that MOST o/u patents will not work as described.  Bedini built the Kromrey Convertor from patent information and it did not work.  He found the problem but will not disclose what he had to change to make it perform.  Most of this building is a major waste of resources, if only the intentors would disclose the ACTUAL concept that makes them perform.

At this particular point in my life, I feel humanity is nothing more than slaves to the greedy.

Rich

syncron

@oouthere
I agree with you. But that is the way inventors protect himself: once he give the full working idea in a patent every company can copy it, modify it a little patent it as your own and start production. The poor inventor will not have energy and money to faith against them and demonstrate that this is his invention.

Since this is very easy to built for me I'll do it and try. Someone has to do it. If we only replicate proven OU devices, nobody will prove other OU effects.

Why I say it's easy: If, as the patent states, the effect is due to the rotating magnetic field, it is not necesary create this rotating magnetic field with 3 phases current. Rotating Magnetic fields can be made with x phases, where x goes from 2 to infinity. With 2 phases we need 90 Degrees between them and four poles four good perfomance. That can I do with a little magnetic core and my function generator. The rest are a few diodes, loads and measure equipment. I hope I'll have it done the first week in July, after my last exams at University this year.

If the OU effect is not in the rotating magnetic field but in the inverter or in the 3 phases my experiment will not give positive results. I'll post them here.

@Motorcoach1
You can down load a colored version from Patrick Kelly at this link:
http://panacea-bocaf.org/files/patrickkelly/PatD14.pdf
or go to the USPTO and download it there.

I'll upload it as soon I as I have installed a pdf printer.
The admin, hartiberlin, has put this patent in the files order for Steven Mark inventions.

@Emdevices
yes, it has to be syncronous, but I'm speeking about the syncronous charge angle 'delta' which exists between source and load rotating magnetic field in syncronous machines. The delta angle not means slip: both magnetic fileds rotate at the same speed (not as in asyncronous machines where the load field goes slower) but in relationship with the load and exciting values there is a angle: the load magnetic field goes behind or before the source field but at both go at the same speed.
You made me curious: About what is your patent?
Greetings

syncron

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