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Scope shots of clean kicks

Started by bob.rennips, June 26, 2007, 11:07:47 AM

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bob.rennips

Things I'd like to be able to do but can't!

1. Adjustable pulse width on a per coil basis - so that each coil is only on for the minimum amount of time to bring the magnetic field up to a certain level.

2. Rough phase setting - ability to set the approximate phase between coils. So if you have 3 coils you have 120 degree out of phase and 4 coils 90 degrees out of phase.

3. Fine phase setting - what is important is the lining up of the turn-off times of one coil with the turn on times of another coil. The ability to adjust the pulse width will also screw up the turn-off alignment. I'd like to be able to adjust the phase so if i needed a certain amount of overlap between the turn-off of one coil and the turning-on of the next coil I could do this. The overlaps makes this much more difficult to achieve electronically I think.

The above is more to show what I think are the timing considerations in having a fully tuned setup. I think the setup above could be a few months into the future. I think careful winding of coils to make as near as identical as possible will alleviate the need for per coil tuning. The above circuit will come into its own once we have a working proof of concept as it will allow quickly wound, non-identical coils to be used, in replication attempts.

I think problems with replication (e.g. Otto et al) are down to timing differences due to slightly dissimilar coils. GK's precise measuring of wire length, placements of coils, etc. could produce some interesting results assuming of course that Otto's results don't require slightly different coils in order to achieve the correct timing!

Cheers, Bob.



Earl

Hi Bob,

in answer to your above posts, please see

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2582.msg37117.html#msg37117

hehehe I like your rhyme.

Regards, Earl
"It is through science that we prove, but through intuition that we discover." - H. Poincare

"Most of all, start every day asking yourself what you will do today to make the world a better place to live in."  Mark Snoswell

"As we look ahead, we have an expression in Shell, which we like to use, and that is just as the Stone Age did not end for the lack of rocks, the oil and gas age will not end for the lack oil and gas, but rather technology will move us forward." John Hofmeister, president Shell Oil Company

bob.rennips

Quote from: Earl on June 27, 2007, 03:33:19 AM
Hi Bob,

in answer to your above posts, please see

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2582.msg37117.html#msg37117

hehehe I like your rhyme.

Regards, Earl

Very nice! Thanks Earl, much appreciated.

Earl

"It is through science that we prove, but through intuition that we discover." - H. Poincare

"Most of all, start every day asking yourself what you will do today to make the world a better place to live in."  Mark Snoswell

"As we look ahead, we have an expression in Shell, which we like to use, and that is just as the Stone Age did not end for the lack of rocks, the oil and gas age will not end for the lack oil and gas, but rather technology will move us forward." John Hofmeister, president Shell Oil Company

Earl

Hi Bob,

I would suggest limiting the adjustment range of the firing point by not using a C, only a low value 10-turn poti.  Too much adjustment range may get you lost.

Another question that pops into mind is when the beast finally starts putting out serious juice, whether to scale up physically or, for example, use 8 coils instead of 3 or 4.

I will be generating more schematics concerning 3 and 4 phase generation using a shift register.  The advantage of a SR is that there are no propagation delays from stage to stage, all stages are clocked simultaneously, even at 30 MHz.

Regards, Earl
"It is through science that we prove, but through intuition that we discover." - H. Poincare

"Most of all, start every day asking yourself what you will do today to make the world a better place to live in."  Mark Snoswell

"As we look ahead, we have an expression in Shell, which we like to use, and that is just as the Stone Age did not end for the lack of rocks, the oil and gas age will not end for the lack oil and gas, but rather technology will move us forward." John Hofmeister, president Shell Oil Company