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Overunity Machines Forum



Steorn?s upcoming demo in London , Uk !?

Started by hartiberlin, July 03, 2007, 11:48:07 PM

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Dingus Mungus

Quote from: Honk on July 11, 2007, 11:06:22 PM
Yes, I would like to clear things up so we don't end with useless numbers
when it comes to talking about the power output from Paul's motor.
When inventors tend to use strange ways of measurement they usually
have something to hide. Let's not do it this time, please.

The more I look at it the more it seems to be saying 222 newtons per meter of torque at 52 degrees...
I assume thats the position when the static magnetic fields produce the most force, but the question then becomes whats the strongest cog point in the same measurment? We definitely need the measurement cleared up though, as 52 radians doesn't make a lot of sence to most of us.

Altho Paul should really be figuring out if hes in this for the money or the goal of sovernty, as I had read recently he was taking one of our members to court for selling similar devices. It would be a real shame if another overunity device was lost in the shuffle over something as petty as money.

~Dingus Mungus

EDIT:
1 Newton (N) = 0.2248 Lbs. Force
1 Newton Meter ( Nm) = 0.738 foot pounds
222Nm of force = 163.836 foot pounds of torque...
Thats more power than most V6 engines can produce.
We really need a video at this point or it just sounds TGTBT.

~Dingus Mungus

hartiberlin

Quote from: Honk on July 11, 2007, 01:28:05 PM


How do you calculate 222 Nm at 52 radians to an output of 12.5KW?
What does really 52 radians mean? Didn't Paul mean RPM?
Please post the formula. It could be very useful in future projects.

Regards / Honk


Have a look here:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radians

Use in physics

The radian is widely used in physics when angular measurements are required. For example, angular velocity is typically measured in radians per second (rad/s). One revolution per second is equal to 2Ïâ,¬ radians per second.
So 2 * pi = 6.2832

Now he has 52 rads/sec.
That means he has got a revolution per second of 52 / 6.2832 = 8.267 Hz.

Now he has a torque of 222 Nm and now you can calculate the power from it yourself
via this rotation frequency.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

Dingus Mungus

Quote from: hartiberlin on July 12, 2007, 06:07:01 PM
Now he has 52 rads/sec.
That means he has got a revolution per second of 52 / 6.2832 = 8.267 Hz.

Now he has a torque of 222 Nm and now you can calculate the power from it yourself
via this rotation frequency.

Regards, Stefan.

Stefan that would mean he's putting out 160ft/lbs @ 9RPM...
Forgive me but thats something I have to see to believe.

~Dingus Mungus

P.S. If Paul isn't mistaken things are about to get really crazy in the magnet market.

hartiberlin

Okay, here easier for you:

Power =torque x angular speed

That means Power=  222 Nm x 52 rads/sec= 11544 Watts,

so probably it was a typo, not 12.5 KWatts, but 11.5 KWatts...

But with only around 200 Watts of input that is a real nice COP  of 57.72 !
;)
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

hartiberlin

Quote from: Dingus Mungus on July 12, 2007, 06:13:10 PM
Quote from: hartiberlin on July 12, 2007, 06:07:01 PM
Now he has 52 rads/sec.
That means he has got a revolution per second of 52 / 6.2832 = 8.267 Hz.

Now he has a torque of 222 Nm and now you can calculate the power from it yourself
via this rotation frequency.

Regards, Stefan.

Stefan that would mean he's putting out 160ft/lbs @ 9RPM...
Forgive me but thats something I have to see to believe.
My 2003 tiburon delivers only 130ft/lbs @ 4kRPM.

~Dingus Mungus

P.S. If Paul isn't mistaken things are about to get really crazy in the magnet market.

Hi Dingus,
if you would have seen the magnets he has used....
these are about I would think 10 cm x 5 cm x 5 cm Neodym magnets
and at least 50 pieces or so, so this is a very very strong and big machine !
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum