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Magnet motor by pcockriel

Started by hartiberlin, July 04, 2007, 07:17:52 PM

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tao

It would defeat the purpose of his small demo in the video http://youtube.com/watch?v=EeEhKH47Vdo if the sphere was a metal that could be attracted to magnets.

The whole premise of this device is rather interesting:
-When the copper plate is placed under the sphere (half covering the magnet under it), the steel ball attempts to move toward the area not covered by the copper plate.
-This initial movement by the steel ball causes the sphere to rotate as the steel ball it self rotates to try to get to the area not covered by the copper plate.
-So, now, the steel ball does one of two things: It stays in a position just off center in the sphere and closest to the magnet's area and it continues to spin in place, thereby spinning the sphere, OR, the steel ball initially moves toward the area no covered by the copper plate, which causes the sphere to spin, then the steel ball rolls backwards toward the other side of the sphere DUE to gravity, sort of an oscillation setup between the magnet's attraction, the sphere/water's movement, and gravity.

You would think that if the sphere "stays in a position just off center in the sphere and closest to the magnet's area and it continues to spin in place, thereby spinning the sphere" that it should perhaps slow down and this would become a sticky spot. Does the fact that the sphere and magnet are moving already, does this KEEP them both moving? Is it able to keep moving due to the practically no torque on the sphere from the water?

If it is the second option for the steel ball, where it kind of rolls backwards, and then back towards the magnet, and keeps oscillating, how does it keep oscillating? Is the fact that gravity, magnetism, and the sphere's relationship to the water make for a situations similar to Milkovic's two-stage oscillator? (It's a stretch I know)

Just attempting to find the exact 'mechanism for OU', which is what EVERYONE should do when encountering or inventing OU devices..........For, once this mechanism is isolated, it is ALWAYS possible to use this feature to make more powerful devices.

Tinker

Quote from: Freezer on July 04, 2007, 10:15:34 PM
Quote from: JamesThomas on July 04, 2007, 09:11:17 PM
This is extremely interesting.

I wonder if a floating, hollow steel tube with ends caped would allow for more surface area to react with an even larger magnet beneath, allowing for more power? In other words rather than a sphere spinning, you have a roller or barrel spinning. Would a tube allow for the same rolling effect or reaction with a magnet?

Very interesting. Sorry, already said that.

j

I think this might have some relation to this device.

http://www.keelynet.com/energy/callomag.htm

I think you are dead on!

1. The copper is used as a shield.

2. The Ball magnet is diametric, as I recall all are. To use a rod type magnet in a tube I believe it also would need to be Diametric.

3. Some form of alignment and traction surface on the roller magnets would be helpful.

4. The sphere in flotation is a shock absorber, the same could be achieved with a shaft and a slotted mounting for the shaft with springs or magnetic bearings. (Note there could be a need for +/- from 90deg/verticle)

5. Pcockriel demonstrated the concept using a plastic cup, I doubt that the tube/sphere is limited to metals.

As always your mileage may vary.

Tinker

Great job! pcockriel

Note :

"One could build a PPM and then copy it exactly, and it would not work. You MUST see the flux pattern.

I have specifically said you must view these patterns using a box with metal filings. If you build a PPM without doing this, you are very lucky. "John T" has said that he has built the PPM, and I hope that he has done so. He has also said that he has turned a 6 volt generator with it, and I hope that he has done so."

FreeEnergy

guys just replicate this experiment and post results asap! this is really exiting!  :o ;D :D :)

Earl

Harti,

attached is an AVI file.

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Enjoy, Earl
Quote from: hartiberlin on July 04, 2007, 07:17:52 PM
Hi All,
here is enclosed a video in Flash format
( you need to use www.videolan.org orMediaplayer classic to view it)
"It is through science that we prove, but through intuition that we discover." - H. Poincare

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pcockriel

Ok the diagram you have here is very close, just loose the ball in the middle, and remember there is only
one ball, also the link to the guy who has the pipe that spins like a cage, that was one of my earlier ideas
but I failed at it, I hope he really did pull it off.

(The fields balanced out when I try it),
I never went to college or took any classes on this, The gangs were to bad as I grew up so I tought myself , well anyway I have gave away another Idea that may be easier for everyone, Its so simple a kid could build it, it has two floats in a tube with a weight in the middle,
the weight floats up the tube , the top becomes top heavy and flips over and it repeats forever!!!!!
This is no joke I posted a demo youtube.com/pcockriel also im working on the elemental rod right now
and I got the bulb to light up before the bulb blew out, I posted it as well,Its like I have a brain tumer
The Ideas Just keep coming  lol.