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Open Letter to Steorn

Started by hartiberlin, July 06, 2007, 07:44:11 PM

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hartiberlin

Overunity.com admin challenges the Steorn company to post a video of the ORBO:

Dipl. Ing. Stefan Hartmann, of Berlin, Germany,
the admin of overunity.com , challenges Steorn to post a video
of their ORBO device.

Are the Steorn company owners not embarrassed, that they
did such an "amateurish job" at the failed Kinetica museum presentation ?

The forum community of more than 7500 users at the overunity.com forum thinks,
that this Steorn desaster is hurting the whole free energy research
community and thus we would like to have at least a video of the
ORBO , seeing it run, filmed with no cuts and editing and also showing the starting
up and stopping of the device, so one can see, that there is no scam involved.

Please comply to this wish.

Also your shareholders, who are said to have
put 8 Million Euros into the Orbo development in the last three years
would probably now finally want to see at least a video of a working unit.

Looking forward to your answer.

Regards, Dipl.Ing. Stefan Hartmann.
admin of overunity.com
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

ltseung888

Painful Lesson from Steorn

I am glad that I left all marketing to some one better.  Initially, I thought the Steorn Strategy was brilliant.  One commands the attention of the World.  One is seen to be in total control.  The downside is now obvious.  A failed demo for whatever reason will destroy all credibility.

The Chinese Marketing Team did the following:

(1) Quietly gathered information from all Cosmic Energy Developers in China.

(2) Help them to obtain patents if appropriate.

(3) Invite International Teams on Cosmic Energy Inventions to come and invest in them.  May even act as Venture Capitalists in foreign countries.

(4) Get the theoreticians like Lee and Tseung to Beijing to explain the theory.  Video the session and share.

(5) Get the academic teams to evaluate the theory and the prototypes.

(6) Make some Inventors with working prototypes vice presidents (e.g. Wang Shum Ho) and give them villas, cars, money and shares.  This motivates others to come forward and share their secrets.

(7) The research team works on almost all known Over Unity Inventions.  Multiple teams work on the more promising projects.

(8) Allow some leakage such as via the Tseung posts.  Build the image that China is developing this to benefit the World.

(9) No public disclosure until the products are ready.

(10) There is no need to get funding from the private sector or the Venture Capital Community.  A working device certified by the top professors and backed up by Government Officials easily obtained billion dollars of investment.

They did a much better job than I ever could.

Lawrence Tseung
Steorn's Failure Leads Out the brilliance of the Chinese Marketeers.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

CLaNZeR

ltseung888

So where is the publicity of the chinese OU machine to save the world?, where is the product?

All I see is China being one of the biggest countries in the world to contribute to the pollution of this planet.

I think Steorn has maybe had a victory over the chinese effort, because all I have seen over the last year is some great write up's regards the technology from yourself and respect to you for doing that. It is a well written story and bites at the heart of hope.
But that is all I have seen from that front.

Steorn name is known all over the world, whether for good or bad reviews, but they have marketed in all brilliance, even if it turns out to not be what they claim.

Sorry to say I only have your input regards the Chinese side of things and nothing else to back it up.

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(9) No public disclosure until the products are ready.
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When is that gonna be?, if they have a product that is true then when will it be shown to the world?

Regards

Sean.


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chrisC

@ltseung888

Despite all the rhetoric about the brilliance of your partner's marketing (and technology), where is a OU device that is shown in the open world (and please spare us the answer of "not ready yet"). if it's not ready then don't need to talk as if international patents have been granted and the world community has accepted it as gospel?

I asked you about where is the patent and you pointed me to a patent application? I don't think a patent application is a patent granted?

So, in the end, no offense, you're partners and your invention is, shall I say like Steorn? I don't see a difference.

chrisC

ltseung888

Discussion of the Steorn Failure at a top University in China. 

The scene is a Postgraduate Student Lounge first introduced in the Steorn Forum under the thread ?Using the OU devices to benefit the World.?  That thread was ?sunk? by the Steorn Website Administrators for whatever reason.

Pretty Girl A was the bossy one and started the discussion as usual. ?How would the Steorn Failure affect the Cosmic Energy or Over Unity Inventions?  Specifically, how would it affect our Pulse Motor Project??

Handsome Boy A held the hand of Pretty Girl C. ?It actually helps us.  Tseung mentioned that if we compared this with the history of flight at the end of the 19th Century, there were numerous failures.  One funny documentary was ?The Magnificent Men and their Flying Machines.  Many physicists at that time even believed heavier than air flight was impossible.?

Pretty Girl B giggled. ?Some Physicists now believe that the Law of Conservation of Energy spelled the doom of all Cosmic Energy or Over Unity Devices.  Tseung came up with the scenario of ?boat in calm water and good sunshine?.  The Lee-Tseung patent and theory information stated that energy can be Lead Out with Pulse Force via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux changes.?

Handsome Boy B: ?Steorn and many other Over Unity Developers used the strategy of ? I discovered something that violated the Law of Conservation of Energy (COE).  Please come and have a look.  This strategy undoubtedly attracted attention but many established scientists convinced in COE would not even give them a chance.  They would condemn the invention without looking.?

Pretty Girl C leaned on the shoulders of Handsome Boy A. ?Tseung is taking a different strategy.  He essentially tells the academics that the COE is wrong if the device Leads Out gravitational or electron motion energy.  Gravitational and Electron Motion Energy surrounds and interacts with us all the time.  Any physicist ignoring or doubting their presence is essentially a traitor to Classical Physics.  If the Newton?s Universal Law of Gravity (all point masses attract each other) is correct, the Lee-Tseung Lead Out theory must be correct.?

Handsome Boy A clapped in support. ?The extension to electron motion energy is brilliant.  In Tseung?s theory, electron motion energy includes magnetic, electric, and electromagnetic energy.  Sunlight is a form of electromagnetic energy.  Sunlight can be absorbed, reflected and interacts with us.  Unless the electrons stop spinning and fall into the nuclei, there will be such energy.?

Handsome Boy B laughed. ?The brilliance of Tseung et al extends to the theory of the Flying Saucer.  They argued that cutting the attracting magnetic force on a spinning magnetic ball would allow the ball to carry the device in the tangential direction.  They called this the magneto propulsion unit.  The youtube Nanjing video seemed to indicate that such a device is possible and may be made in China. USA may not be the only Country with such technology in their Area 51.?

Pretty Girl A concluded. ?It appears that Steorn is far behind in the theory and experimental development of Cosmic Energy Machines compared with EBM, Joseph Newman, John Bedini, Tom Bearden, Minato, Milkovic, Wang, Chas Campbell, Liang and Chao. They are definitely no match for the scientists in top secret projects in Area 51 or Nanjing. They may even be behind us in the Pulse Motor. They were just examples of Magnificent Men with non-flying machines.?

Handsome Boy B. "We are privileged to be in the top University in China in charge of evaluating the Cosmic Energy Patents and Inventions.  We see working prototypes.  We have funding to improve them.  We are under no pressure to disclose anything.  We are essentially in the same position as Tseung.  He can ignore all challenging posts.  He can selectively disclose some information such as that of Sun et al.  He and Lee gave their patent rights to the Chinese Government and People.  Tseung also declared openly that all financial income to him will automatically go to the 'Helping Seedlings to Innovate Foundation'.  They proclaim themselves as theoreticans who will not build a single prototype.  They will just help others shine. We are even better as we are virtual persons."

Lawrence Tseung
Steorn Failure Leads Out even more confidence from the China Teams.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.