Steorn Demo, sabotaged

[TheOne]

I have a question: steorn was talking about an effect using gravity or something like that, now the ORBO seam not related to that at all, steorn have multiple project using different method?

ORBO is 100% magnetic, the other video on youtube show mechanical effect not related to magnet at all

[bitRAKE]

There is an inherent problem with selling information - spread rate is exponential even in a constrained environment. Modern society has developed a number of techniques to control information - the spreading really cannot be controlled, but the language of communication can be controlled.

Steorn wants to sell information - they do not want to create a product. Sean has said all along that their goals is to prove the value of the information they want to sell. Furthermore, Steorn only wants to sell final plans for devices with certain properties - they don't know the source of the properties and don't claim to be selling that information.

Does anyone else see the fatal flaw here? Steorn couldn't produce a device with the properties they claim to be selling plans for. Maybe they have some devices that produce strange properties, but they cannot sell plans for them because they cannot reproduce the effects. It is important to study the devices that they do have in order to understand the source of the properties, but they have an awful strange way of going about that.

[Aphasiac]

There is an inherent problem with selling information - spread rate is exponential even in a constrained environment. Modern society has developed a number of techniques to control information - the spreading really cannot be controlled, but the language of communication can be controlled.

I disagree: I've made a reasonably good living off selling information. Mostly recycled public domain information at that. But I'm just a prop in the theater of intellectual property retail. Imagine if you could protect your information and retain sole rights to distribute it. The quintessential example might be Microsoft, who really has no product, per se. They pedal information to which they own exclusive reproduction and distribution rights.  Indeed, the "Dot Com" revolution has brought us smack into the middle of this, the era of intellectual property protection rights. So as with Linux, you and I,  our opensource mentality, and what we do with it will likely play a very important role on the modern stage, but history tells us we will probably remain at the fringe.   

Steorn wants to sell information - they do not want to create a product. Sean has said all along that their goals is to prove the value of the information they want to sell. Furthermore, Steorn only wants to sell final plans for devices with certain properties - they don't know the source of the properties and don't claim to be selling that information.

Does anyone else see the fatal flaw here? Steorn couldn't produce a device with the properties they claim to be selling plans for. Maybe they have some devices that produce strange properties, but they cannot sell plans for them because they cannot reproduce the effects. It is important to study the devices that they do have in order to understand the source of the properties, but they have an awful strange way of going about that.

I agree. But I also suspect there's more at play here than we know.

--Mark.

[joegatt]

When I first read about this idea of beamed sabotage, I laughed.  However, now that I think about it, I remember that last Wednesday I saw some workers operating a crane (or was it a cherry picker?) towards the floor above the demonstration area. Could they have been retrieving some heavy equipment from this upper floor? Maybe I should have stuck around and had a good look!


Regards
Joseph