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Demagnetization risk of Neo magnets in repel mode?

Started by Honk, July 13, 2007, 04:14:22 AM

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Earl

#20
July 14, 2007, 06:38:57 PM
If acp feels like a "poor untutored magnetic imbecile" that is his problem, not mine.
His post did not help anyone, so I consider it pretty pathetic.
Earl
Quote from: Bulbz on July 14, 2007, 08:17:17 AM
@acp...

:) ;) :D ;D :P. ROFL
[edit] No offence Earl, but that post from acp was funny ! [/edit]
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Earl

#21
July 14, 2007, 06:39:10 PM
Quote from: Honk on July 14, 2007, 04:30:59 PM
If this is the case with neos then a repelled motor is the most attractive design to build.

Honk,
design of electric motors can be very complicated with lots of things to consider.
Looking at things purely in a traditional manner, it doesn't matter whether attracting or repelling.

Once you get over the non-problem of repelling mode weakening NEOs, than you are free to choose atraction or repulsion.

I personally feel repulsion offers non-traditional "bizare" anomolies that attraction mode can not offer so easily.  There is a believable rumor coming from an ex-hippy that his commune in San Francisco in 1969 developed a motor generator that had excess power.  When the battery was disconnected, the motor kept running.  His part in the development was mechanical, so he didn't understand the electrical part very well, but enough details have come out to permit a replication.  Since I heard about this, I have spent some years studying the actions of repelling and rotating magnetic systems.  I believe there are scientific reasons to explain how such a repelling motor could capture excess energy.  The hippy commune used a rotor disk of 3 magnets and two stator coils, plus a bunch of collector coils.  I have not had the time to replicate this motor/generator, but if anyone has time and electromechanical abilities to do so, I can explain how to build it and some things to avoid doing.

Regards, Earl
"It is through science that we prove, but through intuition that we discover." - H. Poincare

"Most of all, start every day asking yourself what you will do today to make the world a better place to live in."  Mark Snoswell

"As we look ahead, we have an expression in Shell, which we like to use, and that is just as the Stone Age did not end for the lack of rocks, the oil and gas age will not end for the lack oil and gas, but rather technology will move us forward." John Hofmeister, president Shell Oil Company

Ergo

#22
July 15, 2007, 02:27:28 PM
Have you personally tried neos in repel mode in your designs?
If so, for how long did you run your machine under load? Weeks, month or years?

Dingus Mungus

#23
July 16, 2007, 01:12:32 AM
This same debate is going on in an alternate location...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2770.msg40186.html#msg40186

My 2 cents are in there...
~Dingus Mungus

Thaelin

#24
July 18, 2007, 08:15:14 AM
OK....... All:
   This from NW Magnets. You can surely demagnetize one magnet with another. Take a grade 8 ferite and an N38 NeoD and the neo will win out every time. The ferite cannot hold up. Two neo's  will not. Thats as far as he went on the subject. Hope that helps out a bit here. So I see I will need to use neos of the same size and grade just to make sure but dont see a problem in my mag motor.

thaelin
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