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[innovation_station]

ok duff this is what i think about the quote you posted from sm

where he says this

I am using 6BQ7-A tubes for the input and phase inverter because they are VHF amplifier triodes designed to operate in Color TV at very high frequencies and so you can imagine how crystal clear my high frequencies are in my stereo amplifier."

what i see in this phrase is this  ok he is using those tubes so eather 1 tube triode or 1 dubble triode to do do this send out signal in to the magnetic amp or the ring (in my opinion it is the same thing) the phase invertor does exacaly what it says flips the phase so the flux is cancled with the other pluse that has been sent  a crystal will do the same thing at the other end of the coil like bordarland seiences did in there vid but they used a volt meter it fliped the signal and sent it back through the coil and then the osolator at that end sends the first signal and the next 1 back through the coil agin  and this repeats and repeats until the voltage reaches its peak or i guess if u let it go you would have a runaway effect
well the last part of the phrase means in my opinion this

he is using 2 high freqs with a diffrence of close to 7.8 hz between the 2 freqs also he tells us that he only uses 2 of the 3 rings for the plused freq his amp is his tpu!!!

well earlyer on today i was expairmenting with 2 freqs and my scope and a tuned primary and secondary mass to mass and well i set 1 generator to 1hz and the other to 7.8 hz and what happined when i plused the coil this is all just out of the freq gen no hi power nothing like that right from the gen

well why dont you just try it and you will see what i saw

it looks like small lightning on my scope between the pluses but not verry fast sooooo

speed  it up!!!! to verry high freq and what you got is tones of hi voltage kicks or bursts of engery the faster the beat is plused it seams right now to me that the more output power you will have

i will post a small vid of what i have seen on my scope to show everyone

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[Mannix]

Ok . I will have a go here ,to all who want to get their hands dirty and think this is a bit more important than a weekendpasstime

The 6bq7 is a med mu triode  12ax7 12au7 are more common and are pin compatible.there are many,many others and just about any piece of tube equipment will have something like them...so ..it aint that hard

they are phase inverters...ALL TUBES ARE PHASE INVERTERS!

His mention of response time was in relation to feedback..because it sure is not in pulse time ...right?

all transistors are phase inverters....he was not being cryptic or general here..it may well have a lot to do with making an air core,  blocking oscillator perhaps but with harmonic perfection...this would mean that the tank side would have to be resonant at a particular frequency just a guess by me here.

this would also suggest that pulses are not what we want...I know the conflict here..but who has got any where with pulses?...the closest thing so far was when sine was created from them..re ecd.

Here is a question for the Pc Heros(  Otto's term ) offense not intended

What part of "harmonic perfection" would use pulses?

I notice a mild waver in my 15" tpu at specific frequencies...ones mentioned...no massive power surge and my tpu is still on the table...but it is interesting ....


Now, how dare anybody who has not used tubes themselves ask for more info....on the other hand..those who do use them just might get the respect that they may be entitled to...I donk know ..just using past history to go by here.

It means using Ottos aproach but wih tubes...at least they wont blow up..


Of course many of you have neither the capacity or the will to do that...you could just watch and wait untill while somebody else does it for you.

AS FAR AS I CAN SEE TUBES ARE JUST TALK HERE

A race to the bottom....does any body remember my story about the bottom feeders....it was just about the time Steven mentioined many times that tubes were easier.
Any body inspired to use tubes...yet?

ready for a hard challenge?

ya'll know better ay? them lights are real






Lindsay

sorry i just remembered somebody asked for a circuit


EDIT...There is absolutely no point in supplying a circuit at this point because if you do not have the knowledge or experience to follow the basics of what has been said then you should NOT be mucking around with lethal  voltages and currents in the first place...let alone what might result.

[Super God]

Ack, so many condradicting ideas going through my damn head. 

"Three phase? Ok!  Pulses or sine waves?  Sine waves would make the most sense wouldn't they?  Wait, you can't get any "interesting" results with sine waves, you need kicks don't you?  Use square waves!  A three phase square wave!?  I've never done anything like that"

Aggg.  I'm really in a confused state of mind, so many questions that I need to answer, I wanna build build build.  Can't wait.  At least I'll have plenty of experiements to take up my time.  Im using some VHF tube, the 12AT7 or something like that, I can't remember the exact name.