The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

[ltseung888]

w.r.t shrugged's toy, in its intended mode of operation:

During the application of the pulse force, even though it is of short duration, the entirety of the kinetic energy from one pendulum is transferred to another.  A CoP of 1.5 would, therefore, see the second pendulum with 50% more energy than the first.  Why is this not the case?

Mr. Entropy,

With your participation, we hope the discussions will be more in line with known Physics concepts.  Let me describe the intended mode of operation first. 

Mode 1: Move One Pendulum to a position on the LHS, keeping the strings tight and leave the other four pendulums in the vertical position. I shall called them A,B,C,D,E for ease of description. A is the pendulum on the LHS.  When A is let go, it will collide with the 4 stationary pendulums (B,C,D,E).  After the collision, A will be stationary; E will swing to approximately the same mirror position as A on the RHS.  On swinging back, E will collide with the 4 stationary pendulums (D,C,B,A).  After collision E will be stationary, A will swing to approximately its original position (minus a little bit because of air resistance and other losses).

I shall pause for your reply.  In this way, we can proceed slowly but surely.  Yell if you do not agree with any of the statements.

(to be continued)

Lawrence Tseung
Participation of Mr. Entropy Leads Out discussions based on known Physics Laws.

[jeffc]

I shall ask for the opinion of the other forum members whether I should repeat the correct interpretation of the Lee-Tseung theory again here.

Are you the only one who does not understand it?  Your use of the multiple pendulum to "prove or disprove" the Lee-Tseung theory demonstrated some "non-thorough" understanding of the Lee-Tseung theory.

May be it is better for someone who understand the Lee-Tseung theory to post a reply to you.

Edited to add:

(1) May be it is a good time to ask the members whether they think your pendulum toy experiment can be used to "prove or disprove" the Lee-Tseung Theory?

(2) Whether a two pendulum swing necessarily has higher efficiency than a one pendulum swing according to the Lee-Tseung theory?

(3) Are there better experiments that can prove or disprove the Lee-Tseung Theory conclusively and settle the issue forever?

Lawrence

Good luck getting answers on that one.  Why don't you just answer #3 yourself and post the results, preferably a video along with explicit instructions on how to replicate.  Your powerpoint presentations of still pictures are not very convincing.   Oh wait, you are not "good with tools," right, so there is nothing you can do, right? 

I wish you would not hide behind your age.  My father is your age, if not older, and he is still very active.  You do not seem disabled in any way.  The tenets of your theory would not require anything complicated.  Put your theory to use and show us something, or we will conclude you are a simple con man.

By the way, what are your credentials?  You consider me unqualified because I am a lawyer, but most of us are hobbyists here.  Where did you study and what professional work have you performed in the real world?

Valid points, indeed.

Regards,
jeffc

[jeffc]

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By the way, what are your credentials?  You consider me unqualified because I am a lawyer, but most of us are hobbyists here.  Where did you study and what professional work have you performed in the real world?

Dear Lawyer shruggedatlas,

I shall answer this question first.  If you had the time and patience searching the Steorn Forum, you could have found the answer.

But since I do not have the patience to search it myself, I am going to reproduce it here for you.

(1)   B.Sc. Physics, Leeds University, England (Date omitted but you can check)
(2)   M.Sc. Aeronautics, Southampton University, England (Date omitted)
(3)   Two Granted US patents on Guaranteed Reliable Broadcast used on Internet. (you can search the US patent database using Lawrence C. N. Tseung as inventor.)
(4)   Quoted in Prof Andrew Tenanbaum?s Book on Network Operating Systems as one of the important contributors in this field (Internet).
(5)   International Software Manager for Digital Equipment Corporation, once the number one minicomputer company and the Number 2 Computer Company after IBM.
(6)   Wrote the first Email program using DECnet in the 1970s on the PDP-11.
(7)   Taught the first group of Chinese Computer Engineers in 1980 on RSX11M and DECnet.  Invited as guest lecturer to Beijing to talk about Networks.
(8 )   After retirement, took up the M.Sc. research on Using Kinetic Theory of Gases to explain Lift and Drag.  Presented at the Aeronautics University of Beijing in 2004.  That was the start of the Energy from Still Air invention.
(9)   Focusing on Cosmic Energy Inventions since 2004.  That was the start of the Lee-Tseung Theory.  Many pending patents ? now donated to the Chinese People.
(10)   Present ? Benefit the world with Cosmic Energy Machines and the Flying Saucer (Lee manage the China and Japan area, Tseung the rest of the World.)

Lawrence Tseung
Relevant Question Leads Out the qualification of Tseung as a trained Physicist.

These should be easy enough to validate I would think.  Thank you Lawrence.

[tinu]

@Tinu

Shruggedatlas is right.
Suffice to lower the amplitude of two colliding pendulum and voila, the ratio of pulse duration over the swing duration increases, hence the significance of pulsed force increases.

One important fact in Physics with pendulums is that the period is independent of amplitude.  In Layman terms, the time taken for one complete swing is the same.  The swinging arc (amplitude) can be higher or lower.  The above supporting statement from tinu seems to violate this fact in Physics. 

You know well that the formula (period independent of amplitude) is just an approximation, valid for very small angles.
In practice always an increase of frequency over time is measured. This is a simple experiment, I am sure Ms. Forever can do it for you, if needed.

Tinu
?Use of approximations and incorrect equations does not Lead Out Gravitational Energy.?

[ltseung888]

In Mode 1: (singl pendulum swing in intended mode)

Step 1 ? Pendulum A was pulled to the LHS.

This can be done by a horizontal force (pulse or no pulse) Fp.  Energy enters the Pendulum A system by the Integral (Fr dot ds) from vertical  stationary lowest point position to maximum LHS position.  Fr is the resultant force at any time on the Bob of Pendulum A; ds is the displacement at the corresponding time; dot denotes vector mathematics.  This integral is a result of work = Force x Displacement.  Fr may vary at the different displacement points ds.  If we know the exact shape of the Fr function, we should be able to calculate the integral.  It does not matter whether the Pendulum Bob is accelerating, deceleration, stationary or in motion.

In this part, we can indeed apply the mathematics of the Lead Out Theory.  The Horizontal Force Fp, the Weight of the Bob Fg and the Tension of the String Fs will all have influence on the Bob.  These three forces will form the resultant force Fr.

The Resultant Force Fr at the starting position before the application of the horizontal force is 0.  Fg=Fs.

The Resultant Force Fr at the ending position (maximum LHS) before the release of the horizontal force is also zero.  Fg dot Fp = Fs (Three forces at Equilibrium).

The Energy imparted or provided to the Pendulum A system at this point (first pulse) is the sum of (the horizontal energy Fp x horizontal displacement + Fg x Vertical displacement.)  The relationship between these two energies is roughly 2 parts horizontal to 1 part vertical.  This is the Lee-Tseung Lead Out theory.

(to be continued)

Lawrence Tseung
First Pulse on the toy is pulling Pendulum A to the LHS.  This Leads Out gravitational energy.