The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

[amateur]

pardon my ignorance....

You posted this close to 0300 hrs and will be meeting Mr Fung at 0500hrs as indicated.

You were supposed to do the abv mentioned and somehow Mr Fung and you managed to complete all these within such a short time that Mr Fung can find enough time to register a new nick and post at 0900 hrs.... And to consider the fact that i did not take into account the travelling, ice-breaking and waiting time.

I am sorry but i find this unconvincing. For a discovery of your magnitude with so many things to verify, so many things to discuss and so many experiments to conduct, 4 hours is way too short.

Have you consider 'Mr. Fung' is another one of these Tseung altered egos?

chrisC

i am giving him the benefit of doubt cos i can't say for something that i have not witnessed. But somehow, i feel that if I had travelled all the way to Mr Tseung to witness THE ANSWER to the world's crisis, 4 hours is really way too short for the announced agenda.

I mean, 4 hours is not even enough to look through all the articles and cds not to mention a lunch session sandwiched in between. what abt dodging of suppressors and assassins? what abt understanding the whole concepts? i dunno? maybe i'm just not bright enough and I need more time than Mr Fung to accomplish the mentioned tasks and I for 1 would need to spend more time with Mr tseung to clarify my doubts to better understand his great invention.

sorry, maybe its just me


Edwin

[Koen1]

@Eddy Currentz: WHAT experiment? I mean, I haven't actually read any proper experiment being suggested by mr. Tseung at all! I see a lot of claims, a lot of talk about his spreadsheet, and even an "experiment" that proves that 2 people can push a chair and make it move... But none of that proves that mr. Tseung actually has something here. If he has a proper "theory", as he claims, and has a formal physics education, it should be easy to present a simple experiment that proves his hypothesis to be worthy of the name "theory".
So where is it? Where is this experiment? Well?

Talk is cheap, and as far as I can determine that's all mr. Tseung presents: a lot of talk, claims of "free energy", but nothing to substantiate it with except for a spreadsheet containing doubfull mixtures of classical physics formulae...

And what about these claims that some of this is actually patented in China? How can this be? Do they not require people to show an actual proof of concept to get a patent in China? Sounds to me like what happened with patents in the US before they introduced the requirement to actually show a working prototype or proof of concept... Tons of US patents from the late 1800s to the early 1900s show devices that simply do not work, no matter how great they look on paper. Yet they still got patents. Perhaps the same thing is going on in China now?

@amateur: You have a very good point there. It seems highly unlikely that an American visitor could go through all the material with mr Tseung and then make a new nick and post within that short period of time.
This leads to the inevitable conclusion that there seems to be something very fishy going on here... Perhaps it is indeed mr Tseung himself posting as this alleged mr Fung. In which case we might want to toss this entire thread in the junk box as it invalidates everything... As far as there was anything valid to go on, for as utalitarian and others have remarked a number of times already: NO proof nor experiments are provided, only claims.
Besides, 4 hours may be more than enough to figure out you have been duped by a nutter of course...

So, let me voice our common wish in the hopes that mr Tseung finally understands and comes forward:
GIVE US PROOF! GIVE US EXPERIMENTS! GIVE US ANYTHING MORE SOLID THAN VAGUE CLAIMS AND PEOPLE PUSHING A CHAIR!


I mean come on... Let's take your "kid and punching bag" example, we can extrapolate a very similar experiment quite easily...
We take a pendulum and connect it to a hinge not through a string, but through a rod. We replace the hinge with a gear setup that allows the pendulum to swing left to right with no resistance (except for normal mechanical friction). We allo the pendulum to swing right to left only via the gears, thereby turning a cogwheel or axle.
This way we could extract (which is the normal English term for what you appear to mean with "lead out") energy from the pendulums swing.
Now we setup a spring or a different setup that allows us to give a periodic push to the pendulum when it is swinging downward left to right.
Starting the experiment, let us lift the pendulum to the highest point on the left, and let it go to start the pendulum swinging. Let us call the energy contained in this E1, which is obviously the potential energy contained in the pendulum at rest in its highest point, which obviously is turned into kinetic energy at the lowest point of the swing.
Now it swings back from right to left, starting at the highest point right with energy level E2 which is E1 minus the friction. Let us say we can extract 10% of that energy using our gearbox, and the rest is enough to allow the pendulum to swing back to the left but not as high as before. So the energy level when it reaches the top left position again is now 0.9*E2 minus the friction. Let us say we give a push that is exactly enough to get the pendulums energy level back to its starting level, which was E1, so we need to input (((E1 - friction) * 0.1) + 2 * friction) at least. Every swing.
How is that over unity?
I see more energy going in... 

[shruggedatlas]

This appearance by baybill should come as no surprise.  However short on proof he may be, Lawrence is a master of testimonials.  Can you count how many alter egos he has in this Steorn thread?  Six, eight, who knows?

http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=43821&page=1

[Koen1]

Oh... 

So mr Tseung is one of those digital multiple personality patients, that's what you're saying?
Dammit!

So it's just another one of the Bowsers in this world eh? too bad, I had hoped there was actually something to his claims...
...well at least he sticks with the topic and doesn't use crumpled straws...

Well if that is really the case, then I guess we can forget about ever getting a proper explanation of his "theory"? 

[chrisC]

This appearance by baybill should come as no surprise.  However short on proof he may be, Lawrence is a master of testimonials.  Can you count how many alter egos he has in this Steorn thread?  Six, eight, who knows?

http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=43821&page=1

Hahaha!
From the Steorn forum (Feb. 3 2007):

Lawrence leads out multiple forum accounts in conversation with himself.

cheers
chrisC