The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

[ltseung888]

Can an experiment be done to verify that the Lee-Tseung Pull does Lead Out gravitational energy?

In Physics, we can look at the consequence of a theory.  For example, in the kinetic theory of gases, we assume molecules are ball like structures hitting the walls and each other.  We cannot see the actual action of a single molecule.  However, their collective behavior gives rise the Gas Laws (Boyle?s Law, Charles?s Law).

It is almost impossible to apply a single ideal Lee-Tseung Pull to a swinging pendulum with perfect measurement of its Force and the Energy imparted.  However, the consequence of Lead Out says that we can supply X units of energy to a system, an additional Y units of energy from gravity can be Lead Out.

The sum of these two energies is the real Input Energy to the system.  It is obvious that X + Y is greater than X alone.  The Lead Out energy Y is the so called Free-Energy.

If the system is designed so that part of the output Z is looped back as Input, the system can indeed sustain itself and produce more useable energy. 

For an Ideal (no loss) system,
  Output = Input
          Z = X +Y

For an non-ideal ( Loss=L ) system
   Z + L = X + Y or
         Z = X + Y ? L

So long as Y is greater than L, we can loop back X and have (Y - L) as Free Energy!  This is the reason why slide 3 (and the associated spreadsheet analysis) is so important.

Thus any demonstrated Free-Energy device will confirm the correctness of the Lee-Tseung Lead out theory.  The Hungarian EBM machine is a commercial, demonstrated machine.  China ordered one already.  Many Engineers are under training.

Lawrence Tseung
Existence of any ?Free-Energy? device will confirm the Lee-Tseung lead Out Theory. Or putting it another way ? The Lee-Tseung Lead Out theory predicts the inevitability of the ?Free-Energy? Machines.

[ltseung888]

Dear Rosphere,

Do you mind sharing your spreadsheet in this open forum?  Mine is somewhere in one of the earlier threads.

Then we can compare Mathematics in addition to Physics.

The Mathematics including the full integration turned out to be understandable if we use the ideal Lee-Tseung Pull on the simple pendulum!

Let us make sure your spreadsheet and mine have the same basic assumptions and equations.

@Tinu

I am glad that you are a Physicist.  It is quite acceptable for two trained experts to disagree (e.g. two doctors and specially two lawyers!)

The Lee-Tseung theory have been published in the form of a patent document.  It is widely disclosed in various forms in many forums.  The latest version can be seen in reply 643 of this thread.

Regards,
Lawrence

[Rosphere]

Dear Rosphere,
Do you mind sharing your spreadsheet in this open forum?

Sure, when I have more faith in it.  I am looking at it now and asking myself, "how in the hell can the value for Fy approach zero at a=90 degrees?"

Ever have on of those engineering problems in college where you were never satisfied with your answer?  So you keep going back over it, trying to understand it on a deeper conceptual level so that your numbers made sense to you?  Tear the damned paper into shreds so fast you hurt yourself doing it?  Then start all over again with a fresh clean piece of paper and a new attitude?

This is one of those times for me.  I dove in the water too quickly without looking for scallywags. 

I made the spreadsheet to quickly check out your numbers against your equations on slide 3.  Aside from the rounding and significant-figure issues, they matched.

I need to start over with a clean sheet of paper, a Free Body Diagram, and a clear head because Fy=0 @ a=90 seems wrong.  It can not be.  In a static condition, there must be a vertical component force equal and opposite to the force of gravity, Mg, for the body to remain at rest, (static; a non-accelerating reference frame.)

(Note: I know that your example does not approach 90 degrees.  I am using this angle a mental tool to check my calculations.  If my numbers at 90 degrees make no sense then all the forces at all of the other angles will be off as well.)

We can imagine 'pushing' the suspended mass off-vertical-angle with an unconstrained horizontal motion; (able to slip in the vertical,) using our finger.  We stop at various angles along the way, from zero to 90 degrees, to compare the pressure on our finger tip.  Increasing tension on the string at increasing angles imparted by even more force from the finger.  There is no way we can hold that sucker at 90 with JUST horizontal force, Fx.  There MUST be a verticle force, Fy, to balance Mg, (in a static condition.)

Since, by initial definition, the applied force may not have a vertical component, Fy = 0, then the only other avenue available to impart such a weight balancing force in a static condition must come from the string tension force, T.

Further, it is impossible to hold the string at a=90 with just a horizontal force because there will be no vertical component of the string to provide the weight balance.

Therefore, when I finally have my static forces Fx and Fy values correct from angles (0 < a < 90) then I suspect that the data in my spreadsheet should look something like this:

Horizontal component of tension in the string, Tx:  (0 < (Tx=Fx) < infinity), where Fx is the applied horizontal force; equal and opposite of Tx.

Vertical component of tension in the string:  Ty=Mg (constant--I should have seen this initially from the FDB.  I guess I have spent too many years in the field doing 'clerical' engineering.)

I think I am on the right track now.  I will try to assemble a new spreadsheet later.  I need to break now and prepare to visit family to celebrate in the traditional way on this American holiday.

Once I flesh-out the static analysis, I can then look into the static energy.  Then we move into the dynamic analysis of forces and moments and the associated dynamic energy.  This is where I am going to need specific information about this pulse force, of which you speak, and the range of motion applied.  I may need to blow the dust off my calculus books before this is all over.

Rosphere-gobble gobble

[Rosphere]

Have a nice day,
Tinu

Thank you for taking the time to go over all this again for my benefit. 
I will figure it out for myself, eventually.

[ltseung888]

I will figure it out for myself, eventually.  This old song came to mind for some reason: 

Dear Rosphere,

I know you will figure it out sooner or later.  You have the right approach.  Happy Thanksgiving to you and family.

Lawrence