The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

[Kul_ash]

 Added contents of this post in previous post! 

[ltseung888]

Dear Mr. Itseung,

Ok now I have read your new presentation also. Now tell me one thing, again in this presentation, where is the proof of your "lead out theory" which is different than previous one?

Now lets take it slide by slide:
Slide no.3 :
AND THE BIGGEST MISTAKE YOU HAVE MADE IN SLIDE NO. 3 IS THAT YOU HAVE SHOWN HORIZONTAL FORCE F ACTING AS IF IT IS A CONTINUOUS FORCE. AND THEN ON OTHER HAND YOU CONSIDER IT AS A"PULSE" FOCE!

Dear Kul_ash,

Thank you for raising the question.  There is nothing wrong with slide 3.  It represents the first Lee-Tseung Pull.  The horizontal force (F) is constant.

You misunderstood our use of ?Pulse Force?.  Shruggedatlas made the same mistake some months back.  She stared at the 5 bob pendulum toy and interpreted the hitting of a moving bob to the other resting bobs as ?Pulse Force? that would lead out gravitational energy. 

Let me repeat the Lee-Tseung Pull or Pulse here again.  In the case of the simple pendulum:
(1)   The first Lee-Tseung Pull is to apply a constant horizontal force F.  The bob will have both horizontal and vertical displacement.  The tension of the string will increase from T to T1.  At equilibrium, the horizontal component of the tension of the string will be equal to F.  Or T1 x sin(a) = F.  Energy supplied by the Horizontal Force F = work done = Hori. Force x Hori. Displacement.  This is only part of the input energy.  The vertical energy is NOT supplied by this horizontal force.  Gravitational energy is Lead Out and enters the penduum system.

(2)   At the end of the first Lee-Tseung Pull, the bob will be at the highest RHS position.  There is no bob velocity.  We then let go.  The bob will swing towards the LHS and back again.  During this swing, no gravitational energy is Lead Out.

(3)   The second Lee-Tseung Pull can be applied when the bob is at the highest RHS position.  The velocity at that instant is zero.  The best Lee-Tseung Pull is NOT horizontal but tangential to motion.  The bob will be displaced further horizontally and higher vertically.  Gravitational energy is again Lead Out.

(4)   The Bob is let go again. The bob will swing towards the LHS and back again.  During this swing, no gravitational energy is Lead Out.

(5)   The third and subsequent Lee-Tseung Pulls are repeat of steps (3) and (4).  The amplitude of oscillation will increase.  Energy can be drawn out with resulting decrease of amplitude.  The energy drawn out is from both the horizontal energy supplied (2 units) and the Lead Out vertical energy (1 unit) approximately.

The Pulse refers to the Lee-Tseung Pull(s).  It is not the definition from the Oxford Dictionary.  The attached file in reply 1106 explains this in much greater detail.

In my signature: there is the statement We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time..  You should have seen that over 600 times. 

Please do not use your own interpretation of Pulse Force in the Lee-Tseung theory.  Slide 3 cannot be wrong mathematically and in terms of physics.  Your interpretation of Pulse Force caused your confusion.  Dozens of posts in this forum and in Steorn.com already addressed this particular issue.  Some suggested that we should not use the term pulse force at all.  That is why we have the new term ? Lee-Tseung Pulls at the right time.

[shruggedatlas]

(1)   The first Lee-Tseung Pull is to apply a constant horizontal force F.  The bob will have both horizontal and vertical displacement.  The tension of the string will increase from T to T1.  At equilibrium, the horizontal component of the tension of the string will be equal to F.  Or T1 x sin(a) = F.  Energy supplied by the Horizontal Force F = work done = Hori. Force x Hori. Displacement.  This is only part of the input energy.  The vertical energy is NOT supplied by this horizontal force.  Gravitational energy is Lead Out and enters the penduum system.

Incorrect.  The horizontal force supplies and horizontal and vertical energy.  The pendulum string acts to change direction of some of the force, in the same way a pulley or a curved incline would.

[ltseung888]

(1)   The first Lee-Tseung Pull is to apply a constant horizontal force F.  The bob will have both horizontal and vertical displacement.  The tension of the string will increase from T to T1.  At equilibrium, the horizontal component of the tension of the string will be equal to F.  Or T1 x sin(a) = F.  Energy supplied by the Horizontal Force F = work done = Hori. Force x Hori. Displacement.  This is only part of the input energy.  The vertical energy is NOT supplied by this horizontal force.  Gravitational energy is Lead Out and enters the penduum system.

Incorrect.  The horizontal force supplies and horizontal and vertical energy.  The pendulum string acts to change direction of some of the force, in the same way a pulley or a curved incline would.

Please consult your university friends.

[Koen1]

Indeed, as Shruggedatlas says, the tension on the string does not appear to have any influence on the
motion of the pendulum bob at all... Don't see why Tseung keeps bringing it up.

Plus, there is again contradiction in Tseungs own words:

Let me repeat the Lee-Tseung Pull or Pulse here again.  In the case of the simple pendulum:
(1)   The first Lee-Tseung Pull is to apply a constant horizontal force F.

If the "Lee-Tseung Pull" is a pulse, then it cannot be a constant application of force, by definition.
Furthermore,

Gravitational energy is Lead Out and enters the penduum system.

is a statement that
is not supported. It is something Tseung chooses to deduct but not a logical consequence of the rest of the
statement.

then even more contradiction:

2)   At the end of the first Lee-Tseung Pull, the bob will be at the highest RHS position.  There is no bob velocity.  We then let go.  The bob will swing towards the LHS and back again.  During this swing, no gravitational energy is Lead Out.

(3)   The second Lee-Tseung Pull can be applied when the bob is at the highest RHS position.  The velocity at that instant is zero.  The best Lee-Tseung Pull is NOT horizontal but tangential to motion.  The bob will be displaced further horizontally and higher vertically.  Gravitational energy is again Lead Out.

So both step 2 and 3 happen in the same "highest RHS position" of the pendulum bob, and both describe how the bob has zero velocity at that point,
and both describe how the bob swings back down. Obviously we can't apply a horizontal pull at that point as that does not comply with the pendulum
function and would pull the bob inward, messing up the entire pendulum motion. "Tangential" pull? Well, vertical perhaps, yes. But how exactly?
After all, we had already let go of the bob in step 2, so it is already performing its downswing... And as Tseung correctly states, this does NOT produce
any "lead out" excess energy. But then magically the bob is back at the highest point in step 3, and now receives a "Lee-Tseung Pull" "tangentially",
which for the sake of clarity I will replace with "downward". Ok, so we again give the bob an extra push when it starts its downswing. Not surprisingly,
this adds energy to the bobs swing, allowing it to indeed move to a higher position on the left hand side than it would if no such push was applied.
But this is all simple mechanics, and I only see mr Tseung inputting this energy. The bob cannot swing up higher than the total amount of energy
that was put into the swing, minus all friction effects.
What I read is mr Tseung "leading out" energy from himself, and inputting it into a pendulum, which loses it in friction.
Still zero evidence of any excess energy, and still zero supporting evidence that this nonexistant "lead out" energy is somehow taken
from gravity.
Or at least, if there is any "lead out" energy that is taken from the energy of gravity itself, there is zero evidence that it has anything to do
with the pendulum at all.

The Pulse refers to the Lee-Tseung Pull(s).  It is not the definition from the Oxford Dictionary. 

Please do not use your own interpretation of Pulse Force in the Lee-Tseung theory.

Says the guy who has just admitted that he himself does not use the term "pulse" in its proper connotation!
Hahahahaha, Tseung, you old crackpot you! You yourself are the one who uses his own interpretation of the term!
And you are the one using it incorrectly! Do not do to others as you would not want done to you. Don't accuse other people
of incorrect terminology if you are guilty of it yourself.

Slide 3 cannot be wrong mathematically and in terms of physics.  Your interpretation of Pulse Force caused your confusion.

No, once again: if you yourself use incorrect terminology, obviously the slide 3 containing this incorrect terminology will also contain
incorrect physics, as correct terminology is very important. If you were to use the word "horizontal" for "vertical" and vice versa,
any slide with those incorrectly applied terms will also be incorrect.

Dozens of posts in this forum and in Steorn.com already addressed this particular issue.

Yet still you keep talking about pulses.

Some suggested that we should not use the term pulse force at all.  That is why we have the new term ? Lee-Tseung Pulls at the right time.

Oh, right, and a periodic push or pull at the right time is not a pulse? How exactly is it not?
Oh, of course, it is not a pull because it is a "constant force", I bet? So please explain then how you "constant" "Lee-Tseung Pull" can be applied
to the pendulum bob? And how does "constant" compute with "at the right time"? It doesn't.
Tseung, you are talking yourself into a corner here.