Newman machine with a closed loop selfrunning without batteries or solar panels

[hartiberlin]

Yes, rMud,
I had seen one of his videos.
Too bad, that he deleted his account and the videos are no longer
online.
Do you know, what exactly the contact "pill" was, that he
between his electrodes ?
Did he exactly state this in his videos ?
Does anyone still have downloaded this video and
can upload it over here ?
Many thanks.

It was really amazing to see, that when he had this "pill"
between the electrodes and it was sparking there,
that the DC motor in series with this spark-gap
just went much faster !

[TheNOP]

If this can help

Not long ago, i saw a video of a guy using melted clay silicate powder on is contact to run a motor faster.

He stated where he brought it online.
unfortunately, i can't remember the exact URL.
It was something like : www. ????clay.com ?

It looked like a really pale grey powder, more white then grey.
Powdered aluminum silicate(desiccant) perhap ?

[TheNOP]

i tested the resistance of desiccant beads.
Aluminum silicate, also called "silicate gel", use to keep humidity out of various pakaging.

I mesured resistance between 6 Mohms to  30 Mohms
30 being the max my multimeter can mesure.

I can't get any precise mesurement no matter how steady my hands are.
It look like current flow make the resistance go higher within a short time.

Removing one probe,stoping the flow, will revert it to a lower resistance state.
Seams to be instantanious.


Since desiccant beads are crystaline they won't melt.
Someone got a solution for how a contact could be made out of desiccant beads ?

[klamathpro]

Ok, this is my first post, but I've been tracking Newman's machine since the mid 90's and I've been able to make a few observations based on what I've seen from his progress.  Most of us already know he acts crazy, and talks strange, and he has epiphanies from heaven etc. and I?m not here to argue that. It?s obvious he has issues with himself, but I want to talk about his machine, it?s a fact that it does do something unconventional to a degree.

Try to follow what I'm saying for a moment... One of the things I've noticed over the years is the size of the batteries he uses gets smaller and smaller as his machine gets bigger and bigger. His barrel sized machine from the 80's used several large batteries in series that "seemed" to keep the machine going in unity for long periods of time.  Now, that means his machine designs are becoming more and more efficient since he is able to achieve the same thing on larger machines with much smaller voltages and current. Although I am not fully convinced that any of his machines have reached full unity by themselves, he has been able to make the machine so efficient that it could be assumed he is close to 99% efficiency to power a 1650 rotary. Though we really don?t know exactly what the recharge efficiency is, Let?s assume 99% based on how long these batteries are lasting.

Now, look at the 1 hour video and notice that in 1 hour's time, the RPM's dropped 5 or so RPM.  That means that the 1% or so inefficiency is slowly taking it?s toll on the batteries, no one can argue that.  And the fact that they are alkalines means they are probably experiencing some fatigue from the continuous charge and discharge to some degree.  But, it also can?t be disputed that in every case including this machine, the batteries are relatively maintaining a massive amount of kinetic energy, possibly more than can be accomplished by those batteries using any other means of electrical to mechanical conversion.

Now here?s where I see a possible flaw to all these experiments.  In every case, (including the experiments by us lowly mad scientists), Newman has always tried to achieve electrical unity with his machine alone. Why doesn?t he try to adapt his machine mechanically to other forms of power conversion, i.e. an alternator. I have not once seen his devices hooked up to conventional generators or alternators. If he would hook up a simple automotive alternator to the big flywheel, don?t you think there would be enough kinetic energy to generate enough milliamps of current to charge and maintain the batteries to 100% capacity?  They are already being charged at 99% efficiency so the current difference required to fill the gap caused by the losses would be very small, so small that we know it's less than 650mAH since the batteries last longer than an hour.  So small in fact, that even though his machine does not have very much torque, the mechanical loss of kinetic energy would be so small. It would be like going from a 1650lb load to a 1655lb load to power the alternator just enough to fill that 1% efficiency gap.  Now correct me if I?m wrong, but the small amount of mechanical losses from producing even 10 amps (120 watts) of 12v DC power will not have much of an effect on slowing down that giant 1650lb rotor.  At 144 volts, 120 watts is about .83 amps of current, more than enough to keep the batteries topped off and thereby achieve overunity.   

The same principle can be applied to a closed loop version.  If you took Naudin?s design of a closed loop system on a larger scale, and added an alternator to the output shaft and fed enough power back in to fill in the loses, you could theoretically create a closed loop unity device.  Nearly ten years ago he got his system to self sustain for 5 minutes. On a larger scale with more efficiency like a true Newman machine, it could probably self sustain for over an hour based on Newman?s results. Judging by what he said in the video, let?s say with a 100ma current draw, that?s roughly a 14.4watt loss in one hour on those 9v batteries.  So an alternator would need to be able to produce 15 watts of power to make up the gap in a closed loop environment.  That?s not very much power needed. I don?t see why overunity could not be accomplished in closed loop either.

As far as proving a true overunity device in closed loop or with batteries is besides the point really.  We are already converting electrical to mechanical and back to electrical again.  Adding a chemical conversion is not really any more different if it adds to the efficiency of usable energy (i.e. being able to use that stored energy to power up other devices once overyunity is achieved.).


So why doesn?t he use his device in this manner? Pride? Maybe he wants his machine to be an overunity device on its own? Maybe he already has and won?t tell us?  I really don?t know. I do want to find out for myself though.  I?m in the process of making my own Newman machine and I hope to try it out with my theory on a much smaller scale. I need to source a micro alternator though, as I don?t think my small machine will turn a full sized one. 

[Pirate88179]

Let?s assume 99% based on how long these batteries are lasting.

I agree with a lot of what you said except the above quote. Why would we make this assumption at this number?  If you are going to pick a number at random, 99% seems a bit high to me.  Everything else that you said makes good sense to me. Why constuct a machine like that and have no real way to verify or quantify the output, if any? I like the alternator/generator idea, easy to measure with very consistant results I would think.

Bill