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Eldarion and Bruce's build of Bob's Energy Converter

Started by eldarion, July 27, 2007, 12:58:39 AM

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Jdo300

Quote from: Grumpy on January 15, 2008, 10:54:47 AM
Quote from: Jdo300 on January 15, 2008, 03:03:07 AM
Which also reminds me of what Sauron mentioned once before:

"if we have a powerful magnetic wave present @7.8 Hz and we make the coil cancel one half of the wave , the other half will "hit" the coil which can result in a vibrating "shock" effect and the output will be the other half wave , so basically a alternating half cycle which could look like a pulsed DC is some fashion."


hmmm...must have missed this one...

This was in a PM that he sent me :).

Grumpy

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eldarion

Hello all,

As some of you already know, I recently acquired a Tektronix 500MHz digital scope--this has allowed me to see an additional pulse generation problem with my FPGA-based controller.

For an unknown reason, it generates a perfect pulse sequence on each of the channels, but only for a certain number of cycles, with dead time in-between!!!  It looks like I have never actually fed the correct sequence to the coil, ever.  (This type of problem is nearly impossible to see without a digital storage oscilloscope with enough memory; hence the reason I never saw it before.  On an analog scope everything looks perfectly fine, even though it is not.)  Just to add to my befuddlement, the Verilog pulse gen code does not have any errors in it, so it must be Xilinx's synthesis tools acting up again.  I am not impressed with Xilinx's synthesis program in many areas; you can guess why! ;)

So it looks like another rewrite of the pulse generator is coming. :(  At least I know what the problem is, finally. ::)

Eldarion
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Jdo300

Hey Eldarion,

Great to know that you figured out what's up now. I'm very excited to see how things will go for you once you input the correct frequencies!

Keep up the great work; we're all rooting for you!

God Bless,
Jason O

Bruce_TPU

Quote from: eldarion on January 16, 2008, 08:27:30 PM
Hello all,

As some of you already know, I recently acquired a Tektronix 500MHz digital scope--this has allowed me to see an additional pulse generation problem with my FPGA-based controller.

For an unknown reason, it generates a perfect pulse sequence on each of the channels, but only for a certain number of cycles, with dead time in-between!!!  It looks like I have never actually fed the correct sequence to the coil, ever.  (This type of problem is nearly impossible to see without a digital storage oscilloscope with enough memory; hence the reason I never saw it before.  On an analog scope everything looks perfectly fine, even though it is not.)  Just to add to my befuddlement, the Verilog pulse gen code does not have any errors in it, so it must be Xilinx's synthesis tools acting up again.  I am not impressed with Xilinx's synthesis program in many areas; you can guess why! ;)

So it looks like another rewrite of the pulse generator is coming. :(  At least I know what the problem is, finally. ::)

Eldarion

Hi Eldarion,

I hate to say it, but this is one case where bad news is good news!   :D 

Now that you have diagnosed the problem, perhaps the smell of sweet success is ahead...

No way to get those shock waves Bob described, without the correct pattern as everyone knows.  So this is very encouraging indeed.   ;D

Warm regards,
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.