Experimenting with Double Helix HHO

[joe dirt]

Joe, interesting you would mention "fractal geometry". Since coming across information on the improved efficiencies and reductions in size of fractal antennas, I too have wondered how, or if, fractal geometries could be applied to the metal surface structures within HHO electrolysis. My sense is there is something to this.

Hey J.T. I,ve just started researching fractals and how it applies to the natural world,
  I believe everything we are looking for is already in the natural, here is an interesting
  snippet I,ve taken from a website:

An understanding of how the fourth dimension includes the infinity of intervals between the other dimensions can be gained by visualizing a few of the better known fractal dimensions (sometimes called Hausdorff dimensions by mathematicians). One of the most famous fractal dimensions lies between the zero dimension and the first dimension, the point and the line. It is created by "middle third erasing" where you start with a line and remove the middle third; two lines remain from which you again remove the middle third; then remove the middle third of the remaining segments; and so on into infinity. What remains after all of the middle third removals is called by Mandelbrot "Cantor's Dust". It consists of an infinite number of points, but no length.

The Cantor's Dust which remains is not quite a line, but is more than a point. The dimension is calculated to have a numerical value of .63 and was discovered by mathematician George Cantor in the beginning of the Twentieth Century. It was considered an anomaly and was avoided by most mathematicians as a "useless monstrosity." In fact this fractal dimension is a part of the real world of the fourth dimension and corresponds to many phenomena of Man and Nature. For instance, Mandelbrot cracked a serious problem for IBM by discovering that the seemingly random errors which always appeared in data transmission lines in fact occurred in time according to the fractal dimension illustrated by Cantor's Dust. Knowing the hidden and mathematically precise order behind the apparently random errors allowed IBM to easily overcome this natural phenomena of data transmission by simple redundancies in the transmission.

Interesting stough indeed, but I don,t want to detract from the thread, just agreeing
  with your statement.

Dirt

P.S. I believe i,ll have to live about 783 years in order to understand it all

[rapttor]

Is the key to this maybe, to find the common denominator between the works of Schauberger & Keely?
I wonder if one was to use a funnel to wind the Stainless straps around if it would increase or decrease output?

[lincolninked]

I think the reason this design works so well is the amount of edges.  Far more edge surface than plates or tubes.

[apollo69]

  exactly, surface area and room for the current and bubbles to flow

[europeanhillbilly]

I think the reason this design works so well is the amount of edges.  Far more edge surface than plates or tubes.

If it was about edges, one could try to set up a cell with a few meters of square bars (e.g. 4x4mm or so) cut in pieces.
This would give alot more opposing edges than the helix does... Bit of a wiring job though
Please see the attachment... quick sketch up with Google SketchUp.

Sorry for interrupting the helix idea of this thread, but I think this would be an easy way to see wether edges are responsible for the output or if it's something else...

Btw: I like the funnel idea. If power is put to the wider side of the vortex, I could imagine an effect like John Aarons experienced with the "WidowMaker" cell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqiadqN5tSQ