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Overunity Machines Forum



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Started by RunningBare, August 04, 2007, 06:16:47 AM

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RunningBare

I had wondered why there were not many skeptics on these boards and now I know

Locking my thread and changing the title does not change the facts, the Newman motor does not work as advertised and I did not set out to use it to pulse the video drum, not that it makes any difference, if I remove the casing from any dc motor I can achieve the same effect.

There is something wierd about something staring a person straight in the face but they choose to ignore it because it does not fit in with the almost religious belief in over unity, perpetual motion, call it what you want, there is no free lunch, you do NOT canNOT get something from nothing, do the maths, 1 from 0 = 0, 1000 from 0 = 0

But there is a way to gain on something that exists now, unfortunatly some of you are so blinded by the promise of "free energy" that you just cannot see it, good luck to you all, I really mean it, your going to need it.

tinu

There is really no point in offending the group.

I am a usually a skeptic and, regarding your failed experiments, I think that Newman is exploiting a very weak source of energy coming from Earth?s rotation. According to my estimates, huge coils are needed in order to make it work and, even so, the energy extracted will be quite small. By huge I mean 750k turns and more! Smaller devices (several hundreds of a couple of thousands turns) might show some energy anomalies but they will not be self sustained. For a huge coil, the driving voltage needs to be quite large (due to huge impedance) and the setup is not easy to make for a hobbyist. Loses also need to be carefully minimized. (On the other hand, Harti and others belief that OU in Newman?s machine is caused by the air discharge onto graphite; I could not confirm such an effect but I can not dismiss it either. Anyway, no matter what the real explanation is, for an experimenter interested in Newman you seem to give up in disillusion, before properly doing your homework) These are just some thoughts I considered relevant to open your eyes.

If you really want something deep in free energy, I suggest you read
http://physics.fullerton.edu/~jimw/general/massfluc/index.htm
That?s good science if you can follow it. You may need to read also the other associated articles posted at
http://physics.fullerton.edu/~jimw/general/index.htm
(I know: it?s dealing with gravity&inertia and maybe a new thread might be more appropriate. One more: Mr. Tseung, if you?re reading this, please do not say it?s your ?Lead-out? theory, because really it is not.)

Also, do not forget http://www.blazelabs.com and its New energy research, Project Ixion.

There are many other good documentary sources, depending on your interest. Bottom line is that free energy is not going to become available from the building of a simple device. If it was, it would have been discovered long time ago. You may find free energy all around but the power levels are too small to be of practical interest. The rest of the free energy sources are deeply hidden behind good science and hard equations. (Like the nuclear energy was less than 70 years ago.) Now, these are two completely different approaches. What are you looking for: a weak and forever self-running device but of no practical importance or a break-trough device that can generate enough energy to power your home? I?m on the second although I follow the first category too, because a principle can be identified from this.

Anyway, you?re somehow right: another exploitable source of energy may not be discovered in a short time. But, imho, it deserves a good try. You?re also right when getting upset on over-belief, credulity and false claims. However, Newman?s machine is not a false claim. It is just that your expectations were too high and maybe your patience and scientific background not sufficient for the challenge.

Enough said. Maybe you left already. But if not, please do not consider that we are all blind. There are extraordinary people into this group.

Have a nice day,
Tinu

RunningBare

Quote from: tinu on August 04, 2007, 07:26:05 AM
There is really no point in offending the group.

From my perspective I was offended first, you do not take someone elses posts and change them to suit your needs, thats out of order, if the rest of the members feel I have offended them then that was not my intention, but if they were honest with themselves they would agree that taking someone elses efforts and perverting it is clearly out of line.


tinu

Well, I had no idea that your posts were edited by someone else. I saw that they were removed by yourself, according to the records: ?Last Edit: Today at 11:02:57 AM by RunningBare?, except the last one saying that ?I refuse to put my efforts on a forum that locks, edits or changes my stuff in anyway, if I was swearing and abusive then I would understand, but I have low tolerance for ignorance.?
Then you talk about someone else taking your efforts and perverting it. Meaning?
What was the whole story, anyway?

(I?m interested because at the beginning of this year, in good faith I was giving two relevant ideas in gn0sis.com onto Bedini?s setup, at that time in conjunction with Mike?s motor: the pendulum approach and the similitude of his setup with a regular PC fan. It is not that I wanted then or that I want now something in exchange but I do not feel it is right that Mr. Bedini?s latest video sells the pendulum setup and lately R. Friederick (by far the closest follower of Mr. Bedini as far as I know) is experimenting with fans. If it?s about making money, I think their approach is not fair at all. This is free information, coming from forums and not something that can be used for their wealth! Once you got it free, promote it free!)

Also, I forgot to ask: you talk on the above first post about ?a way to gain on something that exists now?. I couldn?t get the point. Can you be more specific?

Tinu

hartiberlin

@RunningBare

you seem to be here to make fun of some people which your other webcam
coyboy hat video shows.

I have zero tolerance for faking videos and make fun of other
serious experimentors over here and make them look dumb.
This seems, what you intended to do.

Also some users from the Steorn forum told me, that you behaved there
also very unpolite, so I changed the title from your
faked post from "Praise I did it" to the real fact thing:
"Running external magnet rotor via Newman machine at a distance"
so you could not rename it again and locked the thread...

So please stop to bash people over here and making all fun
of the hard working individuals over here.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum