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Tesla + Meyer + water

Started by Lightwave, May 30, 2005, 03:53:29 PM

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Ros-Co.

I think I put my comment to a wrong topic. sorry.

That's better in it.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,742.15.html

raburgeson

That doesn't apply to Stan's patent he not extracting hydrogen by electrolysis. As you may have noticed this devise doesn't respond to Z matching for max power transfer. Stan's system is electronically stripping the hydrogen from the water molecule. In fact it's necessary to limit the current to 5 milliamps. Haven't you seen vids of Stan's car running? Don't give up your project. 40000 volts at .005 amps is only a 200 watt output requirement plus imput the drive the curcuit a 25 amp fuse should handle it. Just install the highest amp stator you can get for your cars alternator and go. 

Ros-Co.

Ok, I know that's not "electrolisis".   The very strong electric force split the molecule.

The problem with the meyer cell is, the ohmic loss.  I cannot put any high voltage to water, because  the cell's resistance about few hundred ohms. (with tap water, with distilled water it increases to few kiloohms)   An 500 ohm cell resistance at 1KV  means 2A, it needs 2KW of power.  The resonance cannot help to reduce the power consumption, because the resistance of the cell reduces the Q of the oscillating circuit. (formed by the inductor, and cell capacitor)

I think Meyer used insulator coated electrodes, so it generates better resonance effect.  In the next experiment I'm going to try it.
If I remember correctly Meyer said 0,5A current.  or 5mA you said?

Early I tried the experiment with pulses, but it's not work...  More power required yet.

I only saw 2 videos, in the first there is a cell experiment, and in the secon there is a car "buggy"   but without any useable technical information.

Regards:
Ros-Co.

mikestocks2006

Quote from: Ros-Co. on June 01, 2006, 04:25:48 PM
Ok, I know that's not "electrolisis".   The very strong electric force split the molecule.

The problem with the meyer cell is, the ohmic loss.  I cannot put any high voltage to water, because  the cell's resistance about few hundred ohms. (with tap water, with distilled water it increases to few kiloohms)   An 500 ohm cell resistance at 1KV  means 2A, it needs 2KW of power.  The resonance cannot help to reduce the power consumption, because the resistance of the cell reduces the Q of the oscillating circuit. (formed by the inductor, and cell capacitor)

I think Meyer used insulator coated electrodes, so it generates better resonance effect.  In the next experiment I'm going to try it.
If I remember correctly Meyer said 0,5A current.  or 5mA you said?

Early I tried the experiment with pulses, but it's not work...  More power required yet.

I only saw 2 videos, in the first there is a cell experiment, and in the secon there is a car "buggy"   but without any useable technical information.

Regards:
Ros-Co.

at 25 deg C water resistivity is aprox 18.2 MegaOhms-cm
http://www.thorntoninc.com/pdf_files/tech_pubs/ECS_04.pdf
even at 1.5 mm gap between the plates/cylinders it's over 1 MegaOhm

mikestocks2006

tao, interesting, thx.
Also in that video clip Meyer seems to be running a car alternator off a motor? It's not too clear if the alternator is providing the power for the rest of his electronics.

I'd like to see taking the produced gas, plumbing it into an off the self gas generator, and if the generator produces enough power to run the electronics for the water "splitting" with some power to spare, then that is it!!!